Empty trunk 01 Impala LS....help me fill it!

[DoesDad 10+ year member]

[quote name='cyn']I would get the 2 Skar 12" with box package for 380$ , would bang hard in that 01 impala... I know most of the shops here thought I had 2 12"s with the single Skar in a 4th order.. and was shocked at how low and clean it was[/QUOTE]

That's the 2nd one! Get ahold of kevin[USER=627113]@SkarAudio[/USER].com I believe he's also got a deal for a single 15 with an enclosure as well. 2 12" VVX's in that big ol' trunk with about 1200 watts on them and you'd be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Vecticus 10+ year member]

I really think two 12's is too much bass for my taste. I have always favored mids and highs over bass and the last single 15" set up was a Memphis Reference 250 RMS in a ported 5 cu box. It was in a 2003 Galant. I have checked out the SSA Icon series and I am impressed with the power ratings. I don't particular care for the way it is just glued where the cone meets the surround. AudioQue subs seem to built with more quality. They are sewn and glued. Don't get me wrong I love bass. I just rather hear my mids and highs crystal clear then have bass filling the background. The lower frequency bass the better which is why I keep going back to the 15".

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

look without getting into too much detail larger diameter drivers as far as subwoofers are more efficient and mos definitely don't sound worse than their smaller counterparts..

there is a lot that goes into designing a speaker than simply cone size..

from my experience frequencies below 80 he aren't very directional therefor larger cones have greater displacement capibilities per stroke, this means as long as your suspension is linear you can get lower distortion figures over your output curve..

I'll often recommend single larger drivers even when someone wants a sq oriented system if they have the space..

it's simple, less chances for distortion..

something that has a high power compression aka easily handles the input without the coil getting hot and causing abnormal fluxuations

something that has a low inductive/capacitive fluxuations

linear spiders throughout stroke used

and finally a very solid structure cone coils former etc..

with that being said alignment/acoustical properties like box placement cabin res freq structure etc do matter but those are more or less set parameters..

Incriminator Audio: No Chrome, No Carbon Fiber, No BS! Period

highly recommended driver

one of the best sounding drivers capibilities of some good output..

3.25 tuned to 28hz will provide excellent lowend and plenty of upper frequency extension to blend with the mids..

 

[VisceralSound 10+ year member]

My current build is in my '99 Malibu, box is currently 9.8cubic feet (aka my trunk space) its just enough room for like 2-4 amps depending on size on the very back sides, planning on running a single Skar VVX15" on 30hz, and in the future just redesigning the box and fit a second 15, Kingkong in the trunk.

 

[FtheNutHuggers]

You've got the room for 2 12"s - and done correctly, they'll probably sound a bit more accurate than a 15"/18" subwoofer.
Personally, I also like single-15" setups, but these guys know their stuff. Given, that you're talking to the right people. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

That is severe misinformation there. By the way it read, it was not intentional, just what this person has been told over the years. You may be able to get the entire system cheaper by trying to go with a quality single 15" or even 18" and a very small amount of power to reach your volume goals and definitely still achieve your SQ requirement. Despite very popular belief, only because misinformation spreads 80x faster and farther than the truth, smaller does not mean faster simply because of diameter. The same goes for smaller being tighter sounding or "better for sq." Again, it's not an attack on that particular contributor, he was passing on what he's been taught or heard somewhere along the road.

 

[FtheNutHuggers]

The same goes for the 15" being better for low frequencies versus a smaller diameter subwoofer, simply because of diameter. When a 20Hz sine wave is introduced to either of them, they will both reciprocate 20 times per second. You have the air space (and just as importantly, the dimensions or shape) to fit a very efficient wave guide of some sort for a single 15" or even 18" subwoofer. If low end extension is part of your sq goal, with a relatively flat response that can mate up to your 6.5" components up front, you are barking up the wrong tree with the AQ offerings. The SD2.5 and HDC3 15" models are not great candidates for a flat response extending below 40Hz. Especially not with any efficiency. There are many subs out there that can fit the requirements, just not those.

But, why use over 250w if you don't need to, right? Using an efficient 15"/subwoofer enclosure combination can yield your desired volume, accuracy, extension and save you some serious change when it comes down to the amplifier required to reach your volume goal. $500 allowance for a single sub leaves a BUNCH of doors open for choices.

Good luck.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

holy skar hugger batman

there is way more out there than skar. ssa,sa,ia,AA,Dc,DD,AB, really guys he could do better than the skar 12s if he is willing to

 

[DoesDad 10+ year member]

holy skar hugger batman
there is way more out there than skar. ssa,sa,ia,AA,Dc,DD,AB, really guys he could do better than the skar 12s if he is willing to

I don't own any Skar (not that I won't in the future) but I just think that 2 12's with enclosure is a good deal. That's all. If you're just starting out it's a pretty good, somewhat cheap way to go imo.

 

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

run from skar

 

[Vecticus 10+ year member]

What are some lower frequency 15" woofers that is being suggested?

 

[Full Tilt 10+ year member]

That is severe misinformation there. By the way it read, it was not intentional, just what this person has been told over the years. You may be able to get the entire system cheaper by trying to go with a quality single 15" or even 18" and a very small amount of power to reach your volume goals and definitely still achieve your SQ requirement. Despite very popular belief, only because misinformation spreads 80x faster and farther than the truth, smaller does not mean faster simply because of diameter. The same goes for smaller being tighter sounding or "better for sq." Again, it's not an attack on that particular contributor, he was passing on what he's been taught or heard somewhere along the road.

Well, really, it's all box dependant. That's kind-of the message I was trying to get to him. And like I said - I do like 15" setups better. I personally like the sound of them, and 1 quality 15 will probably be cheaper than buying 2 12s. Enclosures are generally easier to build for 1 subwoofer, also.

 

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What are some lower frequency 15" woofers that is being suggested?

The SKAR VVX-15/12 are very good at hitting low, according to many reviews I've heard of the product.

 

[Vecticus 10+ year member]

This is what I have come up with. The Boston Acoustic DD-2200 power house. Excellent THD and Signal to noise powering the Incriminator Audio Flatlyne 15" Dual 4ohm. I am thinking about getting the Boston Acoustic GT4-75 four channel amp for my mid's and highs as well.

 

[etm34 10+ year member]

I really think two 12's is too much bass for my taste. I have always favored mids and highs over bass and the last single 15" set up was a Memphis Reference 250 RMS in a ported 5 cu box. It was in a 2003 Galant. I have checked out the SSA Icon series and I am impressed with the power ratings. I don't particular care for the way it is just glued where the cone meets the surround. AudioQue subs seem to built with more quality. They are sewn and glued. Don't get me wrong I love bass. I just rather hear my mids and highs crystal clear then have bass filling the background. The lower frequency bass the better which is why I keep going back to the 15".

Mtx stitches their subs, but that doesn't make them not crap.... Js, if you want sq 2x 10 will get loud but still the best for daily driving

 

[Vecticus 10+ year member]

Thanks for the link guys. Totally didn't even check the Tech tab on the website.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

You've got the room for 2 12"s - and done correctly, they'll probably sound a bit more accurate than a 15"/18" subwoofer.
Personally, I also like single-15" setups, but these guys know their stuff. Given, that you're talking to the right people. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

2 12's more "accurate" than a 15? Please do elaborate. No wonder your friends are stupid