Dissapointed in TC-1000

[JonJT 10+ year member]

That box is just tooo dam small.

 

[TeoTorriatte 10+ year member]

That box is just tooo dam small.

For a 10" TC-1000? I would beg to differ... if that box gets a Qtc alignment of

 

[JayRich 10+ year member]

poly fil might be helpful, it was with my 1 12"tc2+ woofers, and my brother 15 tc2000. especially with a box that size

 

[bushtree 10+ year member]

Im stepping back up to bigger subs.. I dunno who i was trying to kid with a single 10"

 

[JayRich 10+ year member]

Im stepping back up to bigger subs.. I dunno who i was trying to kid with a single 10"

Good choice. a 12 tc 1000 in 1.25 cu.ft chould be could in that truck, almost double the output over a single 10 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[bushtree 10+ year member]

I think im going to go with a 12 TC9 with about 800watts.

 

[energizedsbs 10+ year member]

do you have the stock deck in your f150? i have the same truck as you and when i put a sub there like you did it was not good. no output at all. now i have the 2 10's under the seats downfiring and it sounds pretty good for what little room we have.

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

Bass boost is a loose term... it's called setting the EQ //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif "Boost" isn't being used to make a peak, it is being used to flatten response.
The sub has a low Q so has low output on very low bass sealed, therefore you boost the low frequencies to flatten the response since the sub has plenty of excursion to handle that and you are good to go. Alot of high-end home audio sub systems use a similar method to get their low-end output.

Yup, which is why I went with the TC12 OEM even when I was offered a TC2000 instead (thanks Kyle.) The reason being that I simply don't have the EQ necessary for over-motored drivers sealed. The TC12 has an f3 of around ~32hz at .707 in a 1.4 cu ft sealed box. In car it sounds flat as a door and I have PLENTY of authority down to 20hz. Its hard finding drivers that go low sealed, gotta do a lot of research. When you finally find one though, its oh so worth it.

 

[TC Sounds 10+ year member]

Yup, which is why I went with the TC12 OEM even when I was offered a TC2000 instead (thanks Kyle.) The reason being that I simply don't have the EQ necessary for over-motored drivers sealed. The TC12 has an f3 of around ~32hz at .707 in a 1.4 cu ft sealed box. In car it sounds flat as a door and I have PLENTY of authority down to 20hz. Its hard finding drivers that go low sealed, gotta do a lot of research. When you finally find one though, its oh so worth it.

Well said,

That is very typical of what happens. the OEM 12 (not the 10) was intentionally de motored using a smaller gap to lower the BL to give it a natural ring or boost in a sealed box. The same thing can be done to a low Q driver in a sealed box by giving a bass boost. You can either do it with EQ or you can do it with the driver itself, but the result is the same, you have to add ring / Q if you are over damped. If you are under damped, you need to add motor or make the box larger. For ported boxes you really want all the BL you can get, but in the case of sealed boxes especially large ones with high motor drivers, you will need EQ to get bass. High Q (low BL) drivers should be used with caution in a ported box the resonator is pretty much like increasing the size of the cone and the moving mass at resonance for a limited pass band, if the motor is not strong enough, it will become a very high Q system and ring! ring = boom or muddy sound. damping = no bass. If you do it just right, you'll get a flat response. Modeling is very important for good SQ systems.

 

[Hyperlite 10+ year member]

So if i may seek some guidance as well...

I have a 12" TC1k @ 450wrms in 2 cu ft sealed. I'm happy with the output, but this being my first system, i really have nothing to compare it to. Any basic guidelines or tweaks i should be investigating to maximize my output?