Disappointed in 10" RE SE 10 D2

[kingjd7 10+ year member]

So I need some opinions. I have a AB PH-2500MD. I had 3 skar IVX 12" d2 subs wired to 1.5 ohms. It was ghetto blaster loud, and it took up way too much room than I can afford to give. So then I took one of the skars and put way more than rated on it. At 14.4 the amp puts out a little over 900 rms @ 1ohm. My battery runs at 13.8 so I was around the high 800's I think. Anyway the Skar took it like a champ, but I knew it was only time until it had some issues. So I traded two of the three Skars for one good RE SE 10 D2 and one blown RE SE D2 sub with the thought of putting the blown subs magnet on a 12" basket, and having a sub built. Anyway the RE isn't anywhere close to as loud as the Skar on the same amp with both boxes built to the mfg spec. Am I wrong to think the RE should be louder than the 300 watt RMS Skar?

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[jnk2013]

you gave up too much cone area

 

[garychoffmann 10+ year member]

Rms of a sub does not equate to loudness. You went to a smaller sub on same power. It's not going to be as loud.

 

[kingjd7 10+ year member]

What surprises me is that the Skar took the power. IF I build a custom 12 do you think I will see a noticeable gain from the Skar to a more powerful custom sub?

 

[garychoffmann 10+ year member]

Maybe, if you are a good sub builder. You figure the single sub is only seeing 450 watts or so. A single sub on low power is going to sound like a single sub on low power. The re may be able to take some more power but if the amp can't give it... it's going to underperform.

 

[kingjd7 10+ year member]

Maybe i'm confused, and I haven't clamped the amp yet but I read an article that the amp @ 14.4 is 980 watts, and at 12.6 volts it's 740 watts. Is this not enough to expect powerful bass from a single sub? I know it's all about perspective. I don't expect it to be 2 15" loud, but I surely thought it would be louder than a sub I paid $50 for. (B stock)

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[garychoffmann 10+ year member]

Yes the amp does the rated power at a fixed resistance. A subwoofer is not a fixed resistance and as it plays music the impedance rises. It's a good guideline to go by but it's not a definitive number that the sub sees. As you are playing music the sub may rise to 2 or even 4 ohms++++. Depending on how you set your gains you could be leaving power on thw table

 

[garychoffmann 10+ year member]

Price does not equate performance. A solid 50 dollar driver could outperform a much larger driver that is not being pushed to it's potential.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

depending on price, i'll take both those RE SE subs off your hands.

 

[kingjd7 10+ year member]

The pros for the RE is it takes hardly any space at all, and the sound quality seems to be pretty good no matter what kind of music I play. Shoot me a price fasfocus on the non working RE. I have already stripped it of the cone though.

 

[kingjd7 10+ year member]

How do these guys take one 10", or 12" and make it crazy loud? Is it just Gobs of power to a really strong sub? I know it may sound like a dumb question, but what power range would it take to make a smaller single sub loud?

 

[garychoffmann 10+ year member]

Depends what your definition of loud is. I have been impressed with an sa12 on a mb quart dsc1500. Also a DD2512 on a cm1000. In a camaro a boston g5 10 on a rockford 801s was getting down. 2 sa8's on 1200 in my camry was pretty good. If you are looking for loud like everyone on here.... Large sub, large box, large port, large amp.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='garychoffmann']Price does not equate performance. A solid 50 dollar driver could outperform a much larger driver that is not being pushed to it's potential.[/QUOTE]
@NoLoud4U will completely disagree with you there no matter what you say or how true it might be...

 

[Bass Addict 10+ year member]

How do these guys take one 10", or 12" and make it crazy loud? Is it just Gobs of power to a really strong sub? I know it may sound like a dumb question, but what power range would it take to make a smaller single sub loud?

in my king cab frontier,it will be 1 xcon 10 @1 ohm on a skar sk1500.1 aero ported with SOLID electrical and dynamatt.be plenty loud for daily.small cabin works in my favor.

 

[Bass Addict 10+ year member]

Rms of a sub does not equate to loudness. You went to a smaller sub on same power. It's not going to be as loud.

very true.back when i had a re sx,it was very disappointing.