drinks.. i drink crown and goose... i killed enough woofers in my past.. now im tring to focus on making woofers... im accepting donations! the more the better,lol... i just want a custom basket so i can have spaced spiders and custom shorting rings and to get proper clearences... i hate having a sub using the same old ugly parts... then again its more so about performance...hell as of now im just finding a build house that will be-able to get me started until i can afford my own CNC mill/lathe, magnetizer etc.... i also want to get into spiders... i think 8" spiders are excellent for 90% of the applications they just need to alter geometry, i would like to be able to offer different spiders for different applications...