Current Transfer FTW!

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

If you're working and a lil sweaty, 16 volters will eff you up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

16volts will not eff you up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif If 16volts is bad, I should be dead as a door nail, since Ive been hit (pretty hard too) with 480 volts.

On the alum versus copper thing, Id opt for copper personally. Yes with enough aluminum material you can equal a smaller amount of copper... but look how big those bars are. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif With buss bars you always have to be careful about possible shorts, as they could be catastrophic (yes even with 12-16v). and a small and easily contained bar system is a requirement for me to run any bussing system. Id rather pay the premium price and have two small runs of copper spanning those batts than I would spend a little less money and have to use such large amounts of alum that the buss bar ends up working like a mounting bracket as well. Just something to consider for the next install, Im sure you'll make this setup quite safe and acceptable. The copper setup would have been smaller and much easier to do so however.

Keep us updated.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

16volts will not eff you up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif If 16volts is bad, I should be dead as a door nail, since Ive been hit (pretty hard too) with 480 volts.
On the alum versus copper thing, Id opt for copper personally. Yes with enough aluminum material you can equal a smaller amount of copper... but look how big those bars are. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif With buss bars you always have to be careful about possible shorts, as they could be catastrophic (yes even with 12-16v). and a small and easily contained bar system is a requirement for me to run any bussing system. Id rather pay the premium price and have two small runs of copper spanning those batts than I would spend a little less money and have to use such large amounts of alum that the buss bar ends up working like a mounting bracket as well. Just something to consider for the next install, Im sure you'll make this setup quite safe and acceptable. The copper setup would have been smaller and much easier to do so however.

Keep us updated.

It's not the voltage that kills you. Most taze guns are like... I want to say 250K volts? But Metaamps. When you do the math, it equals a lot of wattage, but the amperage is what actually kills you. The voltage just makes your muscles tense up, but it's not strong enough to mess with your heart's electrical pattern. Hence why you can get tazed for hours and come out with no real conditions other than achey muscles.

As for the bus bars... personally, I'd cover them with some sort of latex or plastic-based adhesive, to help cancel out any possibility of shorting. Just throwing that out there for you, Jake. Better to be safe than have someone's family sue you for killing their kid.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

It's not the voltage that kills you. Most taze guns are like... I want to say 250K volts? But Metaamps. When you do the math, it equals a lot of wattage, but the amperage is what actually kills you. The voltage just makes your muscles tense up, but it's not strong enough to mess with your heart's electrical pattern. Hence why you can get tazed for hours and come out with no real conditions other than achey muscles.
As for the bus bars... personally, I'd cover them with some sort of latex or plastic-based adhesive, to help cancel out any possibility of shorting. Just throwing that out there for you, Jake. Better to be safe than have someone's family sue you for killing their kid.

Yes, the old saying is 'its not voltage that kills you, its the amps'... and that's mostly true. The higher the voltage, the higher the potential current (amperage). Its much easier to carry alot of amperage through a higher voltage system than through a lower voltage system. Less line-loss due to resistance in the wire. That is why power wires, for example, are run at very high voltages (sometimes in the hundreds of thousands of volts) and then transformers are used to step the voltage down to 120v for your home. Its a much more efficient way of transferring the power thru the wire, to your home.
IOW, 480 volts has alot more potential than does 12 or 16 volts. Yes in a system like a tazer that is high voltage but extremely low amperage, it wont kill you, but still has devastating effects. This is not an example of voltage playing an insignificant role in the potential harmfulness of an electrical circuit to the human body.

Coating the bars in "plasti-dip", that stuff used to rubberize tool handles, is a great idea.

 

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Yep.

Thanks man //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

Yes, the old saying is 'its not voltage that kills you, its the amps'... and that's mostly true. The higher the voltage, the higher the potential current (amperage). Its much easier to carry alot of amperage through a higher voltage system than through a lower voltage system. Less line-loss due to resistance in the wire. That is why power wires, for example, are run at very high voltages (sometimes in the hundreds of thousands of volts) and then transformers are used to step the voltage down to 120v for your home. Its a much more efficient way of transferring the power thru the wire, to your home.
IOW, 480 volts has alot more potential than does 12 or 16 volts. Yes in a system like a tazer that is high voltage but extremely low amperage, it wont kill you, but still has devastating effects. This is not an example of voltage playing an insignificant role in the potential harmfulness of an electrical circuit to the human body.

Coating the bars in "plasti-dip", that stuff used to rubberize tool handles, is a great idea.

This. I didn't know what it was called. I had it pictured in my head, I just couldn't think of the name.