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[RobGMN Premium Member]

How could possibly be so stupid to require a step by step break down? Over a decade would obviously refers to the fact the ACA credits are over a decade old. During that time period, there were shorter time periods where the Dems had varying degrees of control in DC. That shouid be obvious to anybody and i would assume that somebody who posts daily in politics thread knows that.

So you admit to complaining that the Dems had a decade to "fix" something, while admitting the "decade" timeline is a fabrication to fit a narrative.
The REAL timeline is as follows:

Trump claimed he was going to "fix" (repeal and replace) the ACA the first time he was in office, but only made things worse. Had he repealed it, there was no plan to replace it with something better.

He is doing so again this time in office, and we're seeing headlines like this:

MAGA winning?

So the real questions are: Why did you choose to misrepresent what i said? Why do you feel compelled to create arguments from a simple statement of fact? Do younthink you've accomplished something when you do silly shyt like this?

No one misrepresented what you said. You VERY clearly stated that team blue had "a decade" to fix the HC issue in the US. I VERY clearly said that team blue controlled the gov't for FAR less than a decade IN the past decade.

If the "a decade" comment was a misrepresentation, then it was you misrepresenting your own thoughts.
So, clear it up for us/me: Explain why you really meant with your complaint that team blue had a decade to fix the HC issue, in light of the actual time frame team blue was in control.

If you want, contrast it with the great plan that Trump had ready to implement, explain how it is better, and why we haven't adopted it.

 

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Dave Taylor is a Republican.

Robert Byrd was a democrat and praised as a mentor and celebrated by lots of high profile democrats

 

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Here we go again. Het fellas Trump calls Nazis "fine people" - Rob said so.

No, Trump said so.

The Unite The Right rally was organized by white supremacists. Jason Kessler. Look it up.
There were protests against it.

Trump said of the rally, and of the people protesting it: ''Some Very Fine People on Both Sides"
it went something like this: "Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Taken at the Unite The Right rally, which is what Trump was commenting on:
"Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Very fine white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers.
MAGA winning.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you admit to complaining that the Dems had a decade to "fix" something, while admitting the "decade" timeline is a fabrication to fit a narrative.
The REAL timeline is as follows:
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Trump claimed he was going to "fix" (repeal and replace) the ACA the first time he was in office, but only made things worse. Had he repealed it, there was no plan to replace it with something better.

He is doing so again this time in office, and we're seeing headlines like this: View attachment 68656

MAGA winning?


No one misrepresented what you said. You VERY clearly stated that team blue had "a decade" to fix the HC issue in the US. I VERY clearly said that team blue controlled the gov't for FAR less than a decade IN the past decade.

If the "a decade" comment was a misrepresentation, then it was you misrepresenting your own thoughts.
So, clear it up for us/me: Explain why you really meant with your complaint that team blue had a decade to fix the HC issue, in light of the actual time frame team blue was in control.

If you want, contrast it with the great plan that Trump had ready to implement, explain how it is better, and why we haven't adopted it.

8 years of Obama + 4 years of Biden. Isn't that over a decade?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No, Trump said so.

The Unite The Right rally was organized by white supremacists. Jason Kessler. Look it up.
There were protests against it.

Trump said of the rally, and of the people protesting it: ''Some Very Fine People on Both Sides"
it went something like this: "Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Taken at the Unite The Right rally, which is what Trump was commenting on:
"Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Very fine white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers.
MAGA winning.
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Wow... so this chopped up partial quote is what you put your faith in? This is what you reference when claiming Trump loves Nazi's? Did you watch the whole speech? Of course not. Like I said, people like you are the problem. You spread misinformation and lies, claim it as facts then talk shit. You are a clown.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Tell us more about your 12 y.o. kid confirming your rewrite of the International Bill of Human Rights.

I never claimed to have rewritten the International Bill of Human Rights; obviously my son could confirm claims I've never made

Tell us more about how CPI data has been faked for almost a decade, just to make Trump look bad.

Another claim I never made.

Tell us more about how the court decisions for Trump vs Carroll were faked.

Yet another claim I never made.

Tell us more about how people don't lose money when the stock market tanks.

Context Rob. Context matters. IIRC, the market returned to it's "pre-tariff" levels within 30 days.

And you think I'M the one who has lost his senses?

Yes, watching you time and time again draw inaccurate conclusions about what "we think" leads me to believe you have indeed lost your grasp on reality.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

8 years of Obama + 4 years of Biden. Isn't that over a decade?

Any which way you slice it, "over a decade" makes perfect sense. Only a person who has lost their senses wouldn't be able to see the obvious.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So you admit to complaining that the Dems had a decade to "fix" something, while admitting the "decade" timeline is a fabrication to fit a narrative.

I admitted to no such thing. Try joining us in reality.

The REAL timeline is as follows:
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ACA was passed in 2010....

Trump claimed he was going to "fix" (repeal and replace) the ACA the first time he was in office, but only made things worse. Had he repealed it, there was no plan to replace it with something better.

No fuggin' way!!! A politician made a "promise" they didn't follow thru on?

He is doing so again this time in office, and we're seeing headlines like this:

MAGA winning?

Have you looked at a historical chart of healthcare premiums? I'm pretty sure I posted one in the past.

No one misrepresented what you said. You VERY clearly stated that team blue had "a decade" to fix the HC issue in the US. I VERY clearly said that team blue controlled the gov't for FAR less than a decade IN the past decade.

If the "a decade" comment was a misrepresentation, then it was you misrepresenting your own thoughts.

Why is that everybody but you understands "over a decade?".

So, clear it up for us/me: Explain why you really meant with your complaint that team blue had a decade to fix the HC issue, in light of the actual time frame team blue was in control.

If you want, contrast it with the great plan that Trump had ready to implement, explain how it is better, and why we haven't adopted it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No fuggin' way!!! A politician made a "promise" they didn't follow thru on?

What Rob fails to understand, accept, realize or whatever is that Trump made some promises... then Robs teams fights him every step of the way on those promises insuring that they do not get done on Trumps time line... then Rob blames Trump.

Rob, Trump has missed promises because your team are petty, childish idiots... how do you not know this?????

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I never claimed to have rewritten the International Bill of Human Rights; obviously my son could confirm claims I've never made

Pretty sure you were the guy who stated unequivocally that there are no innate human rights.
If so, then you must have rewritten the IBHR, which confirms the existence of innate human rights.

Another claim I never made.

Some other Jimi77, perhaps?

Yet another claim I never made.

Context Rob. Context matters. IIRC, the market returned to it's "pre-tariff" levels within 30 days.

And exactly how does that mean no one lost money?

Yes, watching you time and time again draw inaccurate conclusions about what "we think" leads me to believe you have indeed lost your grasp on reality.

I reposted YOUR words. if they do not indicate what you think, why do you post them?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

No, Trump said so.

The Unite The Right rally was organized by white supremacists. Jason Kessler. Look it up.
There were protests against it.

Trump said of the rally, and of the people protesting it: ''Some Very Fine People on Both Sides"
it went something like this: "Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Taken at the Unite The Right rally, which is what Trump was commenting on:
"Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Very fine white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers.
MAGA winning.

So when you read that, your take away is, "Trump called white supremacists & Nazis very fine people. At least you're consistent.

I can think of no greater example of TDS, Collective Narcissism and delusion than Rob's "interpretation" of Trump's statement.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I admitted to no such thing. Try joining us in reality.

"During that time period, there were shorter time periods where the Dems had varying degrees of control in DC."
So, who posted those words for you?

ACA was passed in 2010....

You wanted the Dems to repeal the ACA when the Dems are the ones who put the ACA into play?
Explain the logic.

No fuggin' way!!! A politician made a "promise" they didn't follow thru on?

And yet you blame "team blue" for not fixing what they put in place, and that Trump promised he would "repeal and replace".
So, what was the much better plan that Trump was going to replace the ACA with?

Have you looked at a historical chart of healthcare premiums? I'm pretty sure I posted one in the past.

OK. And? Does that mean it's OK that Trump is failing at his promises, AGAIN?

Why is that everybody but you understands "over a decade?".

Much of the ACA took effect in 2014. So, team blue had three years to "fix" what THEY implemented, and then Trump got in office, under the promise to his sycophants that a first order of business was to repeal and replace the ACA.

What was his great plan, and why did it not happen?

Meaning you talk a great game, until the rubber hits the road. Then, you sputter and die.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So when you read that, your take away is, "Trump called white supremacists & Nazis very fine people. At least you're consistent.

I can think of no greater example of TDS, Collective Narcissism and delusion than Rob's "interpretation" of Trump's statement.

So, he DIDN'T describe the white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers as "fine people".
By "both sides", he was actually only talking about the anti-supremacist and anti-Nazi folks?

That's an odd way to talk about a singular collection of people.

 

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