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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Yes, but he would not have benefitted from it unless he own the Ritz Carlton too.

Does the emoluments clause specifically state the presidency or does it specifically state other elected offices?

 

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@Eggs

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So your only "proof" is an extremely biased source that stopped tracking biden after 100 days...you might as well post some alex Jones stuff as well Rob...both are about as reliable...

And since you keep using the wapo database...I'll assume you're knowingly pushing propagandist lies...either that or you're super gullible for confirmation bias...

You are worse than a ******* 5 year old who has never been told "no" by his mother and father.

No amount of bias on this planet can force the ******* Trump to tell the lies he has told. Lies that you can SEE AND HEAR him tell during his televised verbal diarrheas. And if you think WAPO bias can somehow make him tell the lies he does, then he really has no right to be the leader of this country. Far too controllable.

So go ahead and believe that it's all just one big conspiracy, with every bit of evidence fabricated by the "biased left" to hurt him.
Here's an amazing AI generated interview of Trump, where they made it seem like he was lying about tariffs, about our trade deficit with Canada ($41 billion, not $100 billion) and Mexico ($161 Billion, not $300 billion). Amazing what Buck's Terminator 2 AI is capable of these days.

He "stopped wars" by telling the warring factions that they would pay tariffs to the US at 100%?
What the **** is he even TALKING about?

Are you blinded to the lies simply by the fact that he is actually speaking some words?
Or do you really think this is all accurate, honest , and truthful?

PROVE the accuracy of all these statements to me.
Show me the numbers. Show me the facts. Remove your personal bias that forces you to believe words, simply because he speaks them.
I'll wait.



Probably as long as I'll have to wait for a circuit diagram that shows a mono amp with multiple outputs.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Does the emoluments clause specifically state the presidency or does it specifically state other elected offices?

"any person “holding any office of profit or trust” in the Federal Government"

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You are worse than a ******* 5 year old who has never been told "no" by his mother and father.

Because I called out your 30k claim that you can't back up with an unbiased source...I'm worse than a 5yo?

Back up your claim...surely if he lied 30k times there's a source you can use for proof that doesn't reference wapo...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Because I called out your 30k claim that you can't back up with an unbiased source...I'm worse than a 5yo?

Back up your claim...surely if he lied 30k times there's a source you can use for proof that doesn't reference wapo...

No, becasue you REFUSE to look at the info, instead claiming that it isn't real.
That in some way, WAPO has made up every quote of what Trump said, to the point of having to fabricate entire press conferences and somehow broadcast them on thousands of networks across the world.

Just like a 5 y.o. who covers their eyes to make themselves "invisible". Or the idiots who think the world is flat, or the moon landing never happened.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

"any person “holding any office of profit or trust” in the Federal Government"

Don't simplify it Rob...

Did you know Washington accepted gifts from france without congress approval or repercussions? That's called precedent.

Also the emoluments clause has never been brought through serious judiciary scrutiny so without an actual conviction Trump didn't violate it because the SS or anybody else had to pay for lodging in one his properties...so again a half-truth at best being spouted as gospel by you...just admit Maddow is your Pappa and you march lockstep with her words...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yes, but he would not have benefitted from it unless he own the Ritz Carlton too.

In the context of Constitutional Law an emolument is “any perquisite, advantage, profit arising from the possession of an office” as cited by the case of Town of Highlands v. Hendricks.
We basically paid him to stay at his own "home".

Kind of like hiring your brother's construction firm to build the new town hall (that you own 1/3 of) without getting competitive quotes, when you are the mayor.

I'd say this is a lot different than hiring his brother at taxpayer expense.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Rob still thinks accusations are proof of guilt.

So, you're saying he's a lib?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Except multiple people involved in it were charged and convicted of seditious conspiracy and following through on the plan. Insurrection falls under umbrella of sedition if action is taken

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy "...two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States..."​

Conspire - make secret plans jointly to commit an unlawful or harmful act

Insurrection - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government
Insurrection often involves acts intended to overthrow, disrupt, or challenge the authority of the United States or impede the enforcement of federal laws.

They were convicted of Seditious Conspiracy, carried out by insurrection, by having a plan ("conspire").

If you want to use definitions to support your argument, don't use ones that contradict your argument.

So, nothing to say about the court documents and the bills from Mara Lago to the US Secret Service?

So show me their convictions for insurrection specifically.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Where's the evidence Trump committed insurrection? Surely there's a conviction to back up your "truth" Rob...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Don't simplify it Rob...

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Did you know Washington accepted gifts from france without congress approval or repercussions? That's called precedent.

Also the emoluments clause has never been brought through serious judiciary scrutiny so without an actual conviction Trump didn't violate it because the SS or anybody else had to pay for lodging in one his properties...so again a half-truth at best being spouted as gospel by you...just admit Maddow is your Pappa and you march lockstep with her words...

Ahhh, so a law is only a law if someone has been convicted of breaking it? Interesting.
Two of the cases against Trump were dismissed as they were finally reviewed after he was no longer POTUS. That doesn't mean he didn't benefit from his position by the definition.

And I like your defense of him getting paid to stay in his own "home".
I guess we can drop all the complaints about the "left" benefitting from their positions in the government, huh?
Dozens and dozens of memes crying about how senators, et al, are millionaires, and should not be, when they make over $100k/year.
I mean, how could an attorney/past-president who is also married to an attorney POSSIBLY be a millionaire, right? How could a best-selling author POSSIBLY be a millionaire?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You are worse than a ******* 5 year old who has never been told "no" by his mother and father.

No amount of bias on this planet can force the ******* Trump to tell the lies he has told. Lies that you can SEE AND HEAR him tell during his televised verbal diarrheas. And if you think WAPO bias can somehow make him tell the lies he does, then he really has no right to be the leader of this country. Far too controllable.

So go ahead and believe that it's all just one big conspiracy, with every bit of evidence fabricated by the "biased left" to hurt him.
Here's an amazing AI generated interview of Trump, where they made it seem like he was lying about tariffs, about our trade deficit with Canada ($41 billion, not $100 billion) and Mexico ($161 Billion, not $300 billion). Amazing what Buck's Terminator 2 AI is capable of these days.

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He "stopped wars" by telling the warring factions that they would pay tariffs to the US at 100%?
What the **** is he even TALKING about?

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Are you blinded to the lies simply by the fact that he is actually speaking some words?
Or do you really think this is all accurate, honest , and truthful?

PROVE the accuracy of all these statements to me.
Show me the numbers. Show me the facts. Remove your personal bias that forces you to believe words, simply because he speaks them.
I'll wait.



Probably as long as I'll have to wait for a circuit diagram that shows a mono amp with multiple outputs.

Weird, when I research this I find a page where it says Trump "appears" to be referencing the trade deficit between the two countries. That is the authors interpretation of what Trump is talking about. Like you Rob, he shouldn't try to come up with his own "interpretation" of what was said and should take what was said for what it is. A statement. He said we subsidize those countries and he could very well be 100% correct on the amounts. He was the President and is again. I am sure the people advising him give him the numbers he needs to do his job. I am sure you are right though I am sure he wakes up every day just to lie to the left so they can make a list. Idiot.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

That doesn't mean he didn't benefit from his position by the definition.

By your interpretation of it...which means nothing...if it was an actual issue (with substantial evidence to back it) his no longer being president wouldn't of prevented the case moving forward...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

It's because people are way to willing to whole heartedly believe a biased source that reaffirms their beliefs.

I know. I've seen videos of women claiming Trump's election would reign in "The Handmaid's Tale," black folks claiming they didn't know if they would wake up tomorrow to slavery and ***** folks claiming there is genocide against them in America. WTF??? I guess if you tell a liberal enough times that Trump = the guy with the funny mustache and that everybody that voted for him is an -ist and -phobe, they will believe you.