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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I apologize... I was looking towards the future when we are able to get Russian oil again.

China is propping Russia up buying energy from them

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No you can grow pretty much anything using hydroponics.

I know I am taller after a shower. Bazinga!!

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

$7/hr worker

A person should only be making minimum when first entering the workforce to gain a track record they can use to move up...it was never intended for individuals to stay in minimum wage jobs...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Exactly and at some point war will break and we won't be able support our needs because of our reliance on China

A lot of global inflation is due to global reliance on China for manufacturing. It's the height of stupidity for us to have open markets for China while they restrict our access to theirs. I'm glad the Biden Administration able to see the folly in such an arrangement. When the economy implodes from the tariffs, I'm blaming Biden.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump/index.html

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Go to the store in the "on" season and buy a hydroponic tomato, and a tomato grown in good soil.
Tell me they are the same.

Show me a local grocery store that sells hydroponic grown tomatoes...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Go to the store in the "on" season and buy a hydroponic tomato, and a tomato grown in good soil.
Tell me they are the same.

In Colorado, "they" claim certain non-food crops are better when grown in soil.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Dude wtf is going on:

Mysterious 'Car-Sized Drones' Over New Jersey Prompt FBI Investigation | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I've had hydroponically grown vegetables and as far as I'm concerned they tasted no different than soil grown. Most of what we perceive as taste is all in our heads

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So us getting cheap goods from China because they pay their workers a lot less than our workers could EVER survive on, is "dry ******* us in the ***"? Seems that WE are the ones winning in that game.
We get cheap goods, and we get to continue underpaying our workers.

We're not winning when we are paying to build China's military. We're not winning when we've built up China's economy (and military) to the point that they're leveraging their position to try and undermine American interests (BRICs in particular).

The cycle can continue because populations will always grow, and we will always want the most for the least.

OK. Then my plan to pay people here a living wage and then in-shore all manufacturing is perfectly reasonable.
We don't get to dictate law in other countries, unless you become the supreme leader of the world, like in your "take care of America" plan.

Populations are not continuing to grow. Look up replacement rate - in particular S. Korea & Japan.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Then my plan to pay people here a living wage

That's a dog whistle as minimum wage rises so do the cost of goods. Leaving the minimum wage earner no closer to the "living wage". The only ones that benefit from the so called "living wage" is the ones collecting the taxes...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Let's raise the minimum wage from $7.25 to $14.50.
How much you wanna bet that something that cost $50 will suddenly cost $100+

FFS I paid $120+ for an oil change on a 4cyl!!!! Something that not so long ago was like $50

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Let's raise the minimum wage from $7.25 to $14.50.
How much you wanna bet that something that cost $50 will suddenly cost $100+

FFS I paid $120+ for an oil change on a 4cyl!!!! Something that not so long ago was like $50

When I was making $5.15hr (minimum wage at the time) I could buy a pack of bar s hotdogs and 2 boxes of macaroni & cheese for between $1-1.25 total...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

When I was making $5.15hr (minimum wage at the time) I could buy a pack of bar s hotdogs and 2 boxes of macaroni & cheese for between $1-1.25 total...

I remember during Bush.v1& Clinto eras, when things got tight, I could feed myself for2 weeks on $10-20.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I remember during Bush.v1& Clinto eras, when things got tight, I could feed myself for2 weeks on $10-20.

Yeah that's the time frame...shit top ramen was usually $.10 a pack

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yeah that's the time frame...shit top ramen was usually $.10 a pack

Yep. I'd load up on Ramen & PB&J. Hot dogs were a luxary.