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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Care to stay on topic? So again which lies were those???

I'd like to interject here. The "topic" is Trump being Trump. You guys are talking about COVID and vaccines. It would seem that the lines between topics, threads et al have been blurred and the same arguments are being had over more than one thread.

On the topic though... it seems these bogus convictions aren't stopping Trump from being Trump meeting the people and getting standing ovations everywhere he goes. For a person hated so much... he sure is real popular. Don't ya think?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

When have I ever been dishonest on here? Yeah I did take it to protect others. Are you seriously claiming that taking a vaccine with proven efficacy doesn't protect other people. Furthermore, when I took the jab Alpha and Delta were the dominant variants. Now that Omicron (or whatever it's mutated since) is the dominate variant, I pass on the jab.

I didn't say that lies told by MSNBC & Co don't matter. You specifically called me a sheep that feel for Covid lies, so which lies are those? I posted that I was glad Walensky got dragged before Congress and called out for what she said about the vax, especially since CDC had data published on its website that contradicted her claim (on MSNBC/Maddow) that the vax stopped the spread the virus, which clear wasn't true even when the vax was at its peak efficacy. And Ivermectin is a dewormer; my vet prescribes it for my dog. Ivermectin has been proven ineffective against Covid, which is why Merck never did trials to push ivermectin for Covid, which would have been worth billion$$$ to Merck.

I'm not sure what CIA Ops or Hunter's laptop or Pedos, etc have to do with the Covid vaccine lies you alleged I believe. Now you're ranting and raving like Jones. Care to stay on topic? So again which lies were those???

Dude, me and others have already proved this to you multiple times about covid and covid treatments and such. It doesn't matter; like I can't convince you of something if you're in no mood whatsoever to be convinced. You can't see the giant lie that was the entire covid response and how it destroyed the whole world and how the gov willfully lied.

Knock knock. Who's home? Not Jim:

"This paper looks in depth at the events surrounding ivermectin’s passage from being a huge success in Animal Health into its widespread use in humans, a development which has led many to describe it as a “wonder” drug."

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19"

Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - PubMed

In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases. Since March 2020...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That's why they lied about the effectiveness of ivermectin is because it's cheap, and so they could make billions selling over priced bullshit. Some govs handed out ivermectin in a covid treatment kit. Some places in africa where ivermectin was used a lot for other stuff had lower rates of covid deaths and such.

You show how stupid you are by immediately referring to ivermectin as only a horse or dog or only animal dewormer. You're either misinformed or lying. That's straight "look at me, because I'm an idiot who fell for big pharma propaganda because they own the news and can't make money off ivermectin like they can vaccines."

It's just absurd the way ivermectin is framed and how dumb people are. We shouldn't still have to be debating this. I'm not saying it's 100% cure, but there's a lot of evidence it can help, especially mixed with other things. Stupid stupid stupid we're still stuck here, Jim.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'd like to interject here. The "topic" is Trump being Trump. You guys are talking about COVID and vaccines. It would seem that the lines between topics, threads et al have been blurred and the same arguments are being had over more than one thread.

On the topic though... it seems these bogus convictions aren't stopping Trump from being Trump meeting the people and getting standing ovations everywhere he goes. For a person hated so much... he sure is real popular. Don't ya think?

He's only raised $400 mil since his conviction lol.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Vladimir Putin's regime 'on the verge of collapse' as Russian troops slaughtered

EXCLUSIVE: Vladimir Putin could soon face resistance from his inner circle due to the state of the war in Ukraine where tens of thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed.

www.the-express.com

Macron building ‘coalition’ to send troops into Ukraine

The French president is negotiating with allies to send a coalition of military trainers to Ukraine amid the conflict with Russia

www.rt.com

Oh durrrrr Russia started it:

The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin

For more than a decade, the United States has nurtured a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.

www.nytimes.com

Why is the cia ******* with Russia in a non-nato country well before 2022 invasion where this said country called Ukraine is also corrupted heavily by our corrupt US political interests? Hunter Biden and Burisma anyone?

"The NYT reports that the partnership between the CIA and Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) began in late February 2014, when former president Viktor Yanukovych fled to Russia. This cooperation was proposed by Valentyn Nalyvaichenko, who became the head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU)."

"Later, some of the CIA officers were sent to Ukrainian bases. They reviewed lists of potential Russian targets that the Ukrainians were preparing to strike, comparing the information that the Ukrainians had with US intelligence to ensure its accuracy."

Another source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/cia-maintains-12-secret-bases-212250351.html

So CIA officers in Ukraine showing Ukrainians where to hit Russia with USA made weapons? Sounds ******* genius to fool the sheep.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Dude, me and others have already proved this to you multiple times about covid and covid treatments and such. It doesn't matter; like I can't convince you of something if you're in no mood whatsoever to be convinced. You can't see the giant lie that was the entire covid response and how it destroyed the whole world and how the gov willfully lied.

Knock knock. Who's home? Not Jim:

"This paper looks in depth at the events surrounding ivermectin’s passage from being a huge success in Animal Health into its widespread use in humans, a development which has led many to describe it as a “wonder” drug."

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19"

Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - PubMed

In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases. Since March 2020...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That's why they lied about the effectiveness of ivermectin is because it's cheap, and so they could make billions selling over priced bullshit. Some govs handed out ivermectin in a covid treatment kit. Some places in africa where ivermectin was used a lot for other stuff had lower rates of covid deaths and such.

You show how stupid you are by immediately referring to ivermectin as only a horse or dog or only animal dewormer. You're either misinformed or lying. That's straight "look at me, because I'm an idiot who fell for big pharma propaganda because they own the news and can't make money off ivermectin like they can vaccines."

It's just absurd the way ivermectin is framed and how dumb people are. We shouldn't still have to be debating this. I'm not saying it's 100% cure, but there's a lot of evidence it can help, especially mixed with other things. Stupid stupid stupid we're still stuck here, Jim.

So you honestly believe Merck took a pass on getting Ivermectin approved and the billions in revenue it would provide because they wanted Pfizer and Moderna to make that money instead??? Since when is Merck not "big pharma?" Merck is worth 2x what Pfizer is worth. Did Merck decide they were making too much money and it was time to give Pfizer a shot? If "you guys" are going to concoct conspiracies, please take the time think them through to their logical conclusions.

And even if Merck got Ivermectin approved, it would have had minimal impact Pfizer and Moderna since Ivermectin would have been a treatment and Pfizer and Moderna were in the vaccine business. Furthermore, have I ever referred to Ivermectin as ONLY a horse or dog dewormer? Of course not because Ivermectin's immunosuppressive properties have been well documented. As a matter of fact I posted the appropriate dosage on this very website when the US was experiencing a rash of Ivermectin overdoses. Nevertheless, Ivermectin's main role is as an antiparasitic drug. Clinical trials on the drug have either been inconclusive or demonstrated no benefit from the use of Ivermectin.

So now that I've corrected the record on what I have or haven't said about Ivermectin, are there any other lies about Covid that I feel for? Do you care to retract your statement?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you honestly believe Merck took a pass on getting Ivermectin approved and the billions in revenue it would provide because they wanted Pfizer and Moderna to make that money instead??? Since when is Merck not "big pharma?" Merck is worth 2x what Pfizer is worth. Did Merck decide they were making too much money and it was time to give Pfizer a shot? If "you guys" are going to concoct conspiracies, please take the time think them through to their logical conclusions.

And even if Merck got Ivermectin approved, it would have had minimal impact Pfizer and Moderna since Ivermectin would have been a treatment and Pfizer and Moderna were in the vaccine business. Furthermore, have I ever referred to Ivermectin as ONLY a horse or dog dewormer? Of course not because Ivermectin's immunosuppressive properties have been well documented. As a matter of fact I posted the appropriate dosage on this very website when the US was experiencing a rash of Ivermectin overdoses. Nevertheless, Ivermectin's main role is as an antiparasitic drug. Clinical trials on the drug have either been inconclusive or demonstrated no benefit from the use of Ivermectin.

So now that I've corrected the record on what I have or haven't said about Ivermectin, are there any other lies about Covid that I feel for? Do you care to retract your statement?

Seriously...

https://www.caraudio.com/threads/what-is.606755/page-1282

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I was getting gas today at a local Shell station and a family had a very large display set up selling some really cool Trump merchandise. I didn't buy anything cause I just wanted gas but they had some cool shirts and other meme like things. One shirt was Trump in a cowboy hat and duster mimicking what Wyatt Earp said in the movie Tombstone. "You tell them i'm comin` and America is comin with me!!" You know, the pale horse thing.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

AI Systems Are Learning to Lie and Deceive, Scientists Find

AI models are, apparently, getting better at lying on purpose -- and that might not be good news for us humans.

futurism.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Honestly not what I was expecting to read this morning haha:

"Among the hundreds of cases included in their analysis was the infamous March 16, 1967 Malmstrom case in which Air Force witnesses reported that ten nuclear missiles were switched off by a UFO, confirmed by a US Strategic Air Command report."

Why do UFOs appear to study nuclear sites?

'This intelligence understands atomics, and they understand atomic weaponry,' according to the retired Air Force staff sergeant who led this new study into Cold War UFOs

www.dailymail.co.uk

Exploding nukes can temporarily create black hole situations and I think we've pissed off our neighbors.

Tis related:

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Honestly not what I was expecting to read this morning haha:

"Among the hundreds of cases included in their analysis was the infamous March 16, 1967 Malmstrom case in which Air Force witnesses reported that ten nuclear missiles were switched off by a UFO, confirmed by a US Strategic Air Command report."

Why do UFOs appear to study nuclear sites?

'This intelligence understands atomics, and they understand atomic weaponry,' according to the retired Air Force staff sergeant who led this new study into Cold War UFOs

www.dailymail.co.uk

Exploding nukes can temporarily create black hole situations and I think we've pissed off our neighbors.

Tis related:

How to Escape the Confines of Time and Space According to the CIA

In the ’80s, the spy agency investigated the "Gateway Experience" technique to alter consciousness and ultimately escape spacetime. Here is everything you need to know.

www.vice.com

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Vladimir Putin's regime 'on the verge of collapse' as Russian troops slaughtered

EXCLUSIVE: Vladimir Putin could soon face resistance from his inner circle due to the state of the war in Ukraine where tens of thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed.

www.the-express.com

Macron building ‘coalition’ to send troops into Ukraine

The French president is negotiating with allies to send a coalition of military trainers to Ukraine amid the conflict with Russia

www.rt.com

Oh durrrrr Russia started it:

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The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin

For more than a decade, the United States has nurtured a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.

www.nytimes.com

Why is the cia ******* with Russia in a non-nato country well before 2022 invasion where this said country called Ukraine is also corrupted heavily by our corrupt US political interests? Hunter Biden and Burisma anyone?

"The NYT reports that the partnership between the CIA and Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) began in late February 2014, when former president Viktor Yanukovych fled to Russia. This cooperation was proposed by Valentyn Nalyvaichenko, who became the head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU)."

"Later, some of the CIA officers were sent to Ukrainian bases. They reviewed lists of potential Russian targets that the Ukrainians were preparing to strike, comparing the information that the Ukrainians had with US intelligence to ensure its accuracy."

Another source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/cia-maintains-12-secret-bases-212250351.html

So CIA officers in Ukraine showing Ukrainians where to hit Russia with USA made weapons? Sounds ******* genius to fool the sheep.

Why is the CIA conducting secret operations against our enemies??? Do you really have to ask that question? Oh right it's all part of some Biden crime family conspiracy. And I'm supposed to believe "I don't know where I am Joe" and his idiot crack head son pulled this off??? The bigger question is do you believe Sleepy Joe and the crack head pulled this off???

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Honestly not what I was expecting to read this morning haha:

"Among the hundreds of cases included in their analysis was the infamous March 16, 1967 Malmstrom case in which Air Force witnesses reported that ten nuclear missiles were switched off by a UFO, confirmed by a US Strategic Air Command report."

Why do UFOs appear to study nuclear sites?

'This intelligence understands atomics, and they understand atomic weaponry,' according to the retired Air Force staff sergeant who led this new study into Cold War UFOs

www.dailymail.co.uk

Exploding nukes can temporarily create black hole situations and I think we've pissed off our neighbors.

Tis related:

So "our neighbors" who are light years away are pissed off at something we've done?

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

I just now realized you people started anew trump-biden thread. Sneaky sneaky.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Why is the CIA conducting secret operations against our enemies??? Do you really have to ask that question? Oh right it's all part of some Biden crime family conspiracy. And I'm supposed to believe "I don't know where I am Joe" and his idiot crack head son pulled this off??? The bigger question is do you believe Sleepy Joe and the crack head pulled this off???

Why is Russia our enemy? Was Russia our enemy in 2016? Why? I'd like more than "Putin bad."

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]