CRX Take 3

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

.1db is a negligible difference. battery voltage and many other factors can come into play to cause that much a difference. Clipping a amp just heats up the coils faster and decreases the life of a sub. Dont you have mags? Your just lucky they are designed so its hard for the coil to reach backplate otherwise you would be on your 5th or 6th recone by now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
but nobody can tell u a thing because you know everything

I'm just throwing things out there to try...and I've only got 1500w RMS on tap...3000w if I pushed the amp into full clipping. Thermally I dony have much to worry about. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Tommy, that is interesting. I will have to try that and see what I gain.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

well dont throw things out there to try that are gonna screw up his sub man. You can clip your stuff all you want. Clipping blows speakers. Period. Give me a 200 dollar speaker and a 50 dollar lanzar amp and i can blow it with clipping

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Clipping blows speakers. Period.

I giggled at this

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

I giggled at this

Why is that?

Do i have to go out and buy a 20 dollar amp and blow my type r with it to prove the point?

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

uh oh

 

[B_Campbell 10+ year member]

lolz

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

Fryman you are an idiot......//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Sig updated for the idiot

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Why is that?
Do i have to go out and buy a 20 dollar amp and blow my type r with it to prove the point?

Go do it. It will NOT blow.

I have had my running on a ghetto *** kenwood amp, rated at 300rms bridged, and it has yet to struggle for about 7-8 months. My gains are cranked and I have audible distortion on some upper frequency bass notes. For the most part it's not audible but my amp is being pushed because I don't give two shits about it. The squarish wave is NOT going to lessen the life of my sub and it's not going to fry the coil. My sub is only rated for 500rms but it takes heavy clipping from an amp rated at 300rms.

If you want, I will ship you an old school alphasonik amp that does maybe 20rms or so. Stick it on any decent sub you want and run it full tilt as long as the amp can last without over heating. I will bet my entire car the Type-R will not blow from that amp.

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Go do it. It will NOT blow.
I have had my running on a ghetto *** kenwood amp, rated at 300rms bridged, and it has yet to struggle for about 7-8 months. My gains are cranked and I have audible distortion on some upper frequency bass notes. For the most part it's not audible but my amp is being pushed because I don't give two shits about it. The squarish wave is NOT going to lessen the life of my sub and it's not going to fry the coil. My sub is only rated for 500rms but it takes heavy clipping from an amp rated at 300rms.

If you want, I will ship you an old school alphasonik amp that does maybe 20rms or so. Stick it on any decent sub you want and run it full tilt as long as the amp can last without over heating. I will bet my entire car the Type-R will not blow from that amp.

Listen to this guy and check out BCAE1.com...

http://www.bcae1.com/2ltlpwr.htm

Scroll down to the notes just before damaging tweeters.

Remember that you claim the BTL can handle upwards of 10,000w+ RMS for burps...which is what he is doing.

In either case the cone is going to be moving close to it's mechanical limits ideally so the little bit of cooling you will loose from sending it a square wave isnt a big deal.

Now for your $20 amp and type R...Claims that Type R can handle 1000w RMS. 2 $20 amp rated at 100w putting out 50 pushed into full clipping to reach that 100w is not going to harm it.

 

[skadude016 5,000+ posts]

Why is that?
Do i have to go out and buy a 20 dollar amp and blow my type r with it to prove the point?

I could see this if you throw a 18-22hz tone on it for an hour then ya i could see it fail. But for daily driving im really doubting this

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

I could see this if you throw a 18-22hz tone on it for an hour then ya i could see it fail. But for daily driving im really doubting this

Tone wont even have an effect on the results other than to keep inductance from hindering power. I've got money I can hook up one channel of one of my USA-100's (50w RMS unclipped) to my Avalon 12" (250w RMS) and let her run full clipped (100w RMS roughly) and it wouldnt harm it in the least over a decent period of time, with music, and deffanitely not for a 3 second burp.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

There is a difference between 100 watts clipped and 4000 watts clipped. Just because the BTL can take 10,000 watts, doesnt mean you can do it. Scott rated it at 2000 for a reason, Is it conservative, Yes...but still 4kw is double his rating. When you send a clipped signal with that much power behind it, things start heating up REAL quick...I wish you guys would get out of the science book a little, and into the real world.

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

There is a difference between 100 watts clipped and 4000 watts clipped. Just because the BTL can take 10,000 watts, doesnt mean you can do it. Scott rated it at 2000 for a reason, Is it conservative, Yes...but still 4kw is double his rating. When you send a clipped signal with that much power behind it, things start heating up REAL quick...I wish you guys would get out of the science book a little, and into the real world.

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In the words of Norass.

"He's still talken?!"

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[Lil_KB 10+ year member]

There is a difference between 100 watts clipped and 4000 watts clipped. Just because the BTL can take 10,000 watts, doesnt mean you can do it. Scott rated it at 2000 for a reason, Is it conservative, Yes...but still 4kw is double his rating. When you send a clipped signal with that much power behind it, things start heating up REAL quick...I wish you guys would get out of the science book a little, and into the real world.

x2.

even with 2k watts. it might not blow instantly, but things will get hot quick.