MOT is not being used...?Maybe we should ask ictee to haxor into another mods account.
Yeah, well based on stetements by a couple of mods it sounds like to me that all or some had no idea that SM had returned the money as soon as he received it. I know the party line now is that it doesn't matter, but to me that just sounds like an after fact statement that the mods are sticking to their guns. And of course, someone would have to actually go to Goob to have the ban reduced, which no mod is going to do.Really he has two choices...
1)We let the OGs get away with whatever and go really hard on the new guys (in which many complained)
2)we go equally as hard on both parties (which many complained)
Sooooo...Decision was made by half of the mod team on the SM topic.
I mean hell...Im not even supposed to be a mod anymore, and you see how the last elections went...
It's the fact that money was exchanged under the false pretenses, when it was refunded is irrelevant.Yeah, well based on stetements by a couple of mods it sounds like to me that all or some had no idea that SM had returned the money as soon as he received it. I know the party line now is that it doesn't matter, but to me that just sounds like an after fact statement that the mods are sticking to their guns. And of course, someone would have to actually go to Goob to have the ban reduced, which no mod is going to do.
He created a situation in which it was possible to by putting a paypal addy out there..Do you really think SM expected him to send the money?
Like I said, I understand what you guys are saying. I just don't think that all the facts were in at the time the decision was made. I understand you guys are saying that it would not have mattered. Perhaps it would not have, I really don't know -- then again maybe the mods don't know either since the mods are out of decision making mode and into defending the decision mode.It's the fact that money was exchanged under the false pretenses, when it was refunded is irrelevant.
And if Goob was aware of the situation, I would wager he'd perma and possibly ban his IP's.
I have no bias against SM, yeah I banned him in the past, but if you've ever read when we've gone back and forth on the forums, you'd see I had no problems with him. Don't know about the rest of the mods' feelings toward him, but this was a decision that was agreed upon by several mods, not just one.
Yes he did. Around $24 and change.*** ranch ended up getting more than $20 back so he should be happy.
Goob is a joke. He cant even mail t-shirtsLike I said, I understand what you guys are saying. I just don't think that all the facts were in at the time the decision was made. I understand you guys are saying that it would not have mattered. Perhaps it would not have, I really don't know -- then again maybe the mods don't know either since the mods are out of decision making mode and into defending the decision mode.
As far as what Goob would do, yeah I agree. It may have sounded like I was suggesting that this would all be taken care of if only Goob would be brought in. That dam sure isn't the case.