Cheater Amps

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

I was pointing out that they go off woofer size in their comps.


the tantrum is 600@4ohm I dont know what they rate that but I wouldnt consiter it a "cheater" amp

it's 1200 watts @ 4 ohms at 14.4 but is rated 250 watts rms @ 4 ohm at 12.5 volts. i'll quit typing now. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

Okay Ill try to make sense of the cheater amp

you have one amp thats rated at 300watts @ 4ohms and will go down to 1ohm...

300@4

600@2

1200@1

now you have an amp thats rated @ 150 watts and is rated to go to 1ohm (but will go significatly lower still making more power....

150@4

300@2

600@1

1200@.5

2400@.25

the tantrum may be rated at 250@4, but the sanctioning bodies have done away with simply trusting the posted ratings since the orion concept series (they rated a 1000+watt amp @ 1 watt, just to show what a bunch of bs the ratings were)

if you have a 1800 watt @ 1ohm amp that doesnt have a 4ohm rating it'll go as so...

1800@1

900@2

450@4

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

it's 1200 watts @ 4 ohms at 14.4 but is rated 250 watts rms @ 4 ohm at 12.5 volts. i'll quit typing now. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

Your right. I was reading on the MT version. My bad. I still dont know why they would rate it at 250 though. They must be on crack

ftp://208.187.38.55/Phoenix_Gold/Manuals/Amplifiers/Tantrum/

 

[jimmclrk1 10+ year member]

Mark Antony 25opcm. Classic cheater amp.

 

[redlinese-r 10+ year member]

one of older model PPI Art Series amps, i forget the model #, but it rated at like 12watts rms @4 ohms, then around 400ish watts at either .25 or .5 ohms. i dont remember correctly, but something like that...

arent the older rockford fosgate punch DSM/ix were cheaters too...

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

wat about the RE 36.1 ( think thats wat it was) 36w @ 4??

 

[ntense702 10+ year member]

I remember a friend of mine was talking about this particular subject, and he said the old school orion amps were good for "cheating"

 

[Mr. Loki 5,000+ posts]

well I know the hcca was, but its not easy to find those amps. Not to mention I was just curious as to whats out there.

 

[delvryboy 5,000+ posts]

all of the new cadence amps have double digit 4 ohm ratings.

i used an opti 200.2, 380w@4ohm. i had it wired to 2ohm nominal and had a 3ohm final load on a burp, gave me a tad over 1kw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[95Eclipse 10+ year member]

everyone has forgotten the old punch IX series amps... 25.2 and 150.2 were serious cheater amps... as well as ppi art series amps...

 

[revrider1 5,000+ posts]

I have two Orion hcca 2100 amps I might be getting rid of. I am fixing to put all my US Amps back into my new car and the Orions might be up for sale. What kind of wattage are you looking for?

 

[Mr. Loki 5,000+ posts]

Me personally am not looking for a certain wattage considering I have 4.5k I know numerous people have asked me about cheater amps so I made this thread to see everyone chime in on the subject, but also does anyone know the rating on the american bass XD1800? I know its rated at 150x1@4ohms and said to do 1800x1@1ohm, but I dont know how tru that is.

 

[Raven 10+ year member]

I remember seeing a page a couple of months ago on an amp rated at 300wrm @ 4ohm, but because it was designed to live with a constant short circuit it could handle 1/16 ohm all day. Came out to like 860+ amps of current draw and 9600 watts RMS. I guess you could call that cheater.

 

[GCAdidas13 10+ year member]

RE 35.1d

350x1 at 4

1600x1 at 1

has been heard of to run 1/2, even 1/4 ohm for more

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

old school cheater amps were sound stream 3.0 (12.5 watts x 2) 6.0 (25x2)

audio art 50 hc (25x2) 100 hc (50x2) promos series ppi (25, 50 and 450) and a whole bunch of rf amps and some old us amps (they didnt hold a candle to the audio art 100 hc though that 100 hc was rated at 100 watts and put out 1200 ish watts us amps at that time would do 800ish) . orion had some amps too but i never used them due to the soundstreams being as good and costing 100-200 less. ma audio has a couple out now as well as american bass but i never messed with the new school versions