Capacitor or Capcell?

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

I hope your trollin.
Shy away from PA.

that amp is only rated at 1200W and it prolly wont do rated.

The subs wont handle rated power either most likely.

Classification Class D

Channels 1 Channel

Output Power •1 x 1200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 4Ohm 0.5% THD

•1 x 1700W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 2Ohm 0.5% THD

•1 x 2200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 1Ohm 0.5% THD

Maximum Power 4000W

Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR) 100dB

2200 rms //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif and it is branded for branded he will be fine for a cheapo system.

but I agree that PA isnt very good. they make decent stuff but these items are not it IMO.

 

[Toone 10+ year member]

Classification Class D Channels 1 Channel

Output Power •1 x 1200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 4Ohm 0.5% THD

•1 x 1700W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 2Ohm 0.5% THD

•1 x 2200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 1Ohm 0.5% THD

Maximum Power 4000W

Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR) 100dB

2200 rms //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif and it is branded for branded he will be fine for a cheapo system.

but I agree that PA isnt very good. they make decent stuff but these items are not it IMO.

Reading>Me lol but you would have to run at 2 ohms with the 2 d2's

 

[Enellz 10+ year member]

I hope your trollin.
Shy away from PA.

that amp is only rated at 1200W and it prolly wont do rated.

The subs wont handle rated power either most likely.

he'll be fine.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

Hey thanks for the advice,

Would you be able to help me with what to get? All i know now is to get a mono amp instead of the one i was planning. I wanted to stick to all power acoustik just to match and make it look good a little too.

Im a real beginner so would you be able to tell me wha the real difference is between the 2ohm and 4ohm subs are? I was just looking at the max power.

Thanks,

i sent you a pm as well make sure you get dual 4 ohm subs and use the 2nd amp you listed the capcell is a huge waste of $$ for a few dollars more they sell the hc600 battery.

 

[romeostylez13 10+ year member]

any other suggestions if PA isnt that great??? I am starting it from scratch anyway. Kind of want a matching system with everything. Just want something poweful without going broke lol.

Otherwise i got suggestions from the convo so far:

Power Acoustik Bamf4000/1d Bamf Series ......or more powerful?? i think 5500 next one up

1 x 1200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 4Ohm 0.5% THD

1 x 1700W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 2Ohm 0.5% THD

1 x 2200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 1Ohm 0.5% THD

Power Acoustik P3-12W2600W Max, 12" Dual 2 ohms P3 Series Subwoofer

Power Handling:

Peak: 2600 watts

RMS: 1300 watts

and the big 3 upgrade

totally a beginner so what would i need to do rated as you said? get the most out of the subs

 

[romeostylez13 10+ year member]

Power Acoustik P2-12W1400W Max, 12" Dual 4 ohms P2 Series Subwoofer

12" Dual 4 ohms P2 Series Subwoofer

Power Handling:

Peak: 1400 watts

RMS: 700 watts

those would be better just cuz the 4 ohms?

i

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

no, the first sub is better than that and if you wire the sub in series, then normally to the amp, the amp will see 4 ohms and run the sub at rated power 1200rms //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif send me prices and I will try to figure a better setup. PA has a pretty bad name but not on all of their stuff. what is it costing you for all of this so we know what to recommend in the same price range.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

are you using 1 sub or 2? alot of here are dealers ( //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif me ) and can make you a great deal on much better stuff.

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

Power Acoustik P2-12W1400W Max, 12" Dual 4 ohms P2 Series Subwoofer12" Dual 4 ohms P2 Series Subwoofer

Power Handling:

Peak: 1400 watts

RMS: 700 watts

those would be better just cuz the 4 ohms?

i

no you could wire the first subs together and get a 2ohm load which would give you plenty for those subs.

 

[romeostylez13 10+ year member]

Power Acoustik Bamf4000/1d Bamf Series Mosfet Amplifier - $215.99

http://www.beachaudio.com/Power-Acoustik/P3-12w-p-254653.html

Power Acoustik P3-12w P3 Series Subwoofer - $77.99 each - 2x = $155.98

http://www.beachaudio.com/Power-Acoustik/Bamf4000-1d-p-155247.html

Kinetik HC600 - 600 Watt 12 Volt Power Cell Battery - $98.50

http://www.amazon.com/Kinetik-HC600-Watt-Power-Battery/dp/B000LUBQ4I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1241461021&sr=1-5

$416 plus like 10 for shipping everything, so $426 for those 4 parts. Don't mind spending up to $200 more, so say around $600. Just want it to hit hard. Suggesstions based on that??

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

look at the groundpounder 12 inch dvc 4 ohm subs at online car stereo.com much better subs : http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=20672

this matching amp: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=18350

all the stuff from onlinecarstereo has full factory warranty and free shipping //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

and the hc600 you already have listed.

you also need 1 of these ampkits from knukonceptz :

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KFX-AK4

or 1 of these for a little less :

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KLM-K4

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

and what about a box? if you are going to build 1 i have an enclosure design specifically for those subs.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

and dont let rating numbers trick you on stuff, the crunch subs are very conservatively rated and the PA are way over rated.

 

[romeostylez13 10+ year member]

I havent heard much about Crunch, any other companies? havent been much out there but want to work with somethin i heard of. If im doing that amp i would just do the power acoustik 5500. What enclosure you talking about?

Im going to get it professional installed so the guy I know includes the amp kit in installation

http://www.beachaudio.com/Power-Acoustik/Bamf5500-1d-p-155248.html

 

[romeostylez13 10+ year member]

This seem like a good system setup to get more power out of the subs? I am not sure about the whole mono amp - dual channel sub thing works. Will it work together fine?

Power Acoustik Bamf5500/1d Bamf Series Class D Amplifier - $273.99

http://www.beachaudio.com/Power-Acoustik/Bamf5500-1d-p-155248.html

* 1 x 1700W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 4Ohm 0.5% THD

* 1 x 2500W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 2Ohm 0.5% THD

* 1 x 3200W RMS (15Hz to 150Hz) @ 1Ohm 0.5% THD

# HIGH SPEED DIGITAL CIRCUITRY

# FULLY REGULATED PWM POWER SUPPLY

# 4-WAY PROTECTION CIRCUIT

# 1ohm STABLE

# BRIDGING SYNCHRONIZATION

# VARIABLE LOW PASS40 HZ-200 HZ

# VARIABLE SUBSONIC FILTER20 HZ-50 HZ

# VARIABLE SUBWOOFER EQ @ 45 HZ

# 0-180 PHASE SWITCH

# FREQ RESP: 15 HZ-150 HZ

# S/N RATIO: 100 DB

# THD: 0.5%

# NPUTS SENSITIVITY: 200MV-8V

# DUAL MONO SPEAKER OUTPUT CONNECTORS

# PLATINUM PLATED HEAVY DUTY POWER & SPEAKER TERMINALS

# REMOTE DASH MOUNT LOW LEVEL GAIN CONTROL WITH CABLE

# SYSTEM DISTRESS INDICATOR

# 1700W

TWO - Power Acoustik P3-12W - 2600W Max, 12" Dual 2 ohms P3 Series Subwoofer - $77.99 - $155.98

http://www.beachaudio.com/Power-Acoustik/P3-12w-p-254653.html

# 12" Dual 2 ohms P3 Series Subwoofer

# Power Handling:

* Peak: 2600 watts

* RMS: 1300 watts

# Polypropylene injection molded cone woofer

# Butyl rubber surround

# Poly cotton spider

# Texture coat finish on stamped steel basket

# KSV Kapton voice coil

# Nickel plated 8 Gauge compression wire terminal

# Suspension integrated tinsel leads

# 150 oz. Magnet structure

# Sensitivity: 83 dB

Kinetik HC800 - 800 Watt 12 Volt Power Cell Battery - $105.62

http://www.amazon.com/Kinetik-HC800-Watt-Power-Battery/dp/B000LUDEOI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1241481094&sr=1-2