Cali is the place for criminals

[I'mPoor:(]

Non violent crimes generally shouldn't be felonies. Drug use should definitely not be a felony. No matter if you smoking bud or shooting dope. Addiction is a muthafuca and will make people do crazy things that don't represent them as a person. Drugs change you. Your not the same person. I don't feel if you used dope. Got caught, then get clean you should have a felony dope conviction over your head. More likely that will cause someone to go back to the street life and would further hurt people.

You may not like the laws, but in general it seems like a good idea. We know 100% the prison system is failing right now. Why not try some new ideas?

I would say 95% of people don't get clean.

 

[Justin braaapp]

I would say 95% of people don't get clean.

Agreed

 

[Justin braaapp]

Cali should just let the good folks have concealed carry permits and we will see how long the violent crimes last

 

[C1500martin 10+ year member]

Sad that mean you can break into someones car and just keep under 950. Sh1t do i take the subs plus the amp's or just sub's and one amp.

exactly, as long as you keep the value under $950 your straight so take amps and subs all you want just no over 5K what amp cause those are the $950 and up ones lol

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Non violent crimes generally shouldn't be felonies. Drug use should definitely not be a felony. No matter if you smoking bud or shooting dope. Addiction is a muthafuca and will make people do crazy things that don't represent them as a person. Drugs change you. Your not the same person. I don't feel if you used dope. Got caught, then get clean you should have a felony dope conviction over your head. More likely that will cause someone to go back to the street life and would further hurt people.

You may not like the laws, but in general it seems like a good idea. We know 100% the prison system is failing right now. Why not try some new ideas?

exactly drugs change you and make you do bad things, so is it smart to let people do something that has probably 90% chance that it will cause them to do something they originally wouldn't without repercussion? the jail time is there to make people go "sh it, if i do this i might get locked up." and now people will go like us with our loud systems, and tinted windows. "ehhh its just a ticket if i get caught" we can try new things but ease into them don't jump the gun right away and do away with consequences.

I would say 95% of people don't get clean.

double agree

Cali should just let the good folks have concealed carry permits and we will see how long the violent crimes last

i agree on this maybe not concealed but carry permits yes. i say not concealed because a concealed weapon that gets drawn by surprise can sometimes result in what was originally a non violent attack to something violent. now if the weapons were visible the criminal would look around and go "**** theres 5 armed men here I'm not leaving this place whole if i do this" so there for the visible weapon will prevent the incident that could've happened

 

[Justin braaapp]

Yeep. when I lived in arizona you would be hard pressed to hear about a violent crime mainly because every good person had a weapon on them at all times.

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

No offense to your opinion, but have you ever lived that life?

Many people don't get clean your right. On averege for hard drug use 2/3 of people end up quiting after years of use. The other 1/3 generally die or go to jail.

These stats vary by race (white folks much more likely to get clean vs colored folks).

Enough people get clean to make less harsh punishments worth it. Go to a rehab center one day and you'll see lol.

 

[C1500martin 10+ year member]

No offense to your opinion, but have you ever lived that life? Many people don't get clean your right. On averege for hard drug use 2/3 of people end up quiting after years of use. The other 1/3 generally die or go to jail.

These stats vary by race (white folks much more likely to get clean vs colored folks).

Enough people get clean to make less harsh punishments worth it. Go to a rehab center one day and you'll see lol.

i haven't lived the addict life but i have been a criminal, I've done my share of running from the police, getting arrested, taken in for booking and doing/selling drugs. never really an addict but I've been there. i did it all because i was young and underage so my mentality was "ehh it'll get erased from my record" which i got lucky it did so as soon as i turned 18 and became an "adult i said no more. i stopped taking to my friends and stopped being a criminal." it was that simple, the fact that i understood EVERY action has a reaction and that life would only take me to jail or death. I guess i can say i was a lucky one that was strong enough to say enough and actually follow through. So thats where my opinion comes from. Knowing the felony and jail time, and a ruined record was there is what caused me to quit. Its scare tactic and it worked. So if it worked for me I'm sure it works for all the other people that aren't criminals.

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

Good for you for changing your life. As you said you definitely are one of the lucky ones who understood consequences. An active addicts brain works differently than a non active addict. An addict can and will justify anything. If your at the point to steal for your addiction laws don't make much of a difference. An addict going to get money no matter what lol.

All I'm saying is the system in place isn't working. It's definitely time to try other routes/laws. I'm not saying making most non violent crimes not a felony is the best idea, but it's worth a try. Most drug addicts aren't children. Their records will not be expunged. Once you have a record it's extremely hard to get a good job, get loans, be able to go to school, get housing, and many other things. I don't feel an addicts entire life should be based off of what they did when they were using. Many kids in my rehab clinic that I volunteer at after being a patient myself since I was a child have been clean for years. But because of their felonies (most of which weren't violent crimes. More theft cases) aren't able to recieve good opportunities. They try their hardest to better themselves but their records only allow them to do so much.

A better idea instead of making most non violent crimes non felonies would be offer an alternative to people caught doing crimes. We need more implications of drug courts. Ex- if you complete treatment, stay clean, don't commit more crimes all charges will be dropped. That would be the smartest way to go about fixing criminals.

 

[los33 10+ year member]

No offense to your opinion, but have you ever lived that life? Many people don't get clean your right. On averege for hard drug use 2/3 of people end up quiting after years of use. The other 1/3 generally die or go to jail.

These stats vary by race (white folks much more likely to get clean vs colored folks).

Enough people get clean to make less harsh punishments worth it. Go to a rehab center one day and you'll see lol.

Ignorant like a muthfu**a..

You need to quit making stuff up and speak less of what you think you know.

 

[fatboytyler]

Ignorant like a muthfu**a..
You need to quit making stuff up and speak less of what you think you know.

I'm going have to agree with you. From my little hometown in eastern Kentucky I would say 70% stay addicted for life, 20% straight up OD, 5% **** their brains up too much and get put in a looney bin, and the other 5% get clean. Hell, at one point my little hometown was cranking out more meth than any other part of the countr(until a 120 person ring got busted by a like 10 year sting op).

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

Ignorant like a muthfu**a..
You need to quit making stuff up and speak less of what you think you know.

Don't take my word for it. Google yourself American addiction rates. I didn't make that up out of my ***. At the rehab clinic I volunteer at this is the percentage that is given to our clinic to use. Maybe it's high, maybe it's low, but from what I see weekly for heroin rates after years of use 2/3 try to get clean, relapse a couple of times. In a few years most stay clean after a few, and sometimes a lots of relapses. The other 1/3 die or go to jail after years of using.

These stats could be wrong and used just to help recovering addicts see hope that they can beat active addiction. I'm not a researcher who does the studies. But years of living in a drug addicted family, being a no good junkie, and now staying clean for three+ years (minus buddah), and volunteering at a rehab multiple days a week have shown this number to be close to true in my eyes. When using hard drugs (speaking mainly on opietes) after a few years of active using you don't have many options. You either get clean, go to jail, or die. Most addicts who haven't died or gotten life in jail realize this after years of using.

I feel your idea of a junkie is the generic homeless person. Straight crack fiend. Dude walking around in ****** clothes scratching lol. In reality most hard drug users are working/ poor class white folks. Most heroin users are white males ages 18-25.

It's hard to see the full picture when you weren't in, or around that life.

 

[™Caveman 10+ year member]

I would say 95% of people don't get clean.

I took one hit of Crack and got hooked.

20 years later I'm a homeowner.

I'm still an addict.

 

[™Caveman 10+ year member]

Ignorant like a muthfu**a..
You need to quit making stuff up and speak less of what you think you know.

I've seen more whites tore up off the qu££r juice than any other Ethnic background period.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Caveman is right. You can get clean and change your life for the better.

Doesn't mean it won't be hard to turn stuff down.