Blew up my Dayton LS10-44


Squirrel!

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I'm disappointed. Don't think the amp (Pioneer 5 channel DM-9705) was too much. The sub was valiant though. Listening to PF 'Welcome to the Machine' cranked, the bass was incredible. The smell of voice coil cooking, was in the air! LOL But it kept on keeping on after it cooled down. The bad thing is the cone finally separated from the surround. Looking for a replacement with as high of sound quality as the LS10-44 had. Suggestions? Needs to be a shallow mount. The amp kicks out 600 watts on the sub side and the gains are at factory 'normal' settings so as not to overdrive anything. https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-ls10-44-10-low-profile-subwoofer-dual-4-ohm--295-251
 
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As I mentioned in a previous thread concerning this sub, mine went out as well. Didn’t t clip it and only had 400 watts to it. Coil went bad. It would only play when I applied pressure to the cone. Got it brand new from parts xpress.
 
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Jeffdachef

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I'm disappointed. Don't think the amp (Pioneer 5 channel DM-9705) was too much. The sub was valiant though. Listening to PF 'Welcome to the Machine' cranked, the bass was incredible. The smell of voice coil cooking, was in the air! LOL But it kept on keeping on after it cooled down. The bad thing is the cone finally separated from the surround. Looking for a replacement with as high of sound quality as the LS10-44 had. Suggestions? Needs to be a shallow mount. The amp kicks out 600 watts on the sub side and the gains are at factory 'normal' settings so as not to overdrive anything.
they got a 5 year warranty, maybe try to get an RMA before spending money on another sub.
 
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Listening to PF 'Welcome to the Machine'
That one is loud and there's a couple other tracks that go pretty good.
Buy something with more than 250w of power handling.
Not sure what shallow mount sub really can handle a whole lot of power. Probably time to invest more space into a bigger box.
Ya know, I was thinking about doing just that. Just wasn't sure how to say it was a manufacturing defect. :rolleyes: ;)
After you admitted that you were straight up abusing it.
 
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Sundown SD-4 10" is rated 600 rms.
 
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OP's amp is rated for 600w rms. After impedance rise you are right at the rated power handling. Its not a Sundown or other reputable brand that is known for over engineering and under rating. Dayton Audio is no frills US designed Chinese made with slightly above average quality control.

It failed because it's limit was exceeded. Kind of a bummer it's not a better designed product but shallow mount subs are never a good way to go anyway.
 
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$289 though...and I want it to sound good along with handling the power spikes.
The SD-4 is an SQ woofer.


"The SD-4 series truly is a world-class sound quality woofer with low mounting depth, small box requirements, and a reasonable price. This line features an under-hung motor topology – this means that the voice coil is shorter than the top plate so the amount of winding in the gap doesn’t change at all over the center portion of stroke – in this case featuring a 1” thick top plate and ½” long 8-layer copper voice coil. This allows for 14.5mm linear excursion one-way while maintaining an extremely flat BL curve. The all new “W” surround design and newly tooled spider work together to create a flat “center” compliance curve which quickly turns progressively stiffer past the linear limits of the motor. This was heavily optimized in 3D computer simulations. This makes the SD-4 significantly more mechanically rugged than the previous generation. To top off distortion reduction features the SD-4 features a shorting ring around the bottom of the pole-piece to even out the LE curve."
 
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Sundown sd series are far from SQ. Still a daily ground pounder at best in both sealed and ported applications but ive only heard the sd2 and sd3. I highly doubt much changed with the sd4
 
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Under hung, shorting ring, low LE, low MMS, low FS. Everything about it is more "EsssQuee" than the Dayton.

SQ woofer. :whistle:
 
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Never head the low profile dayton i doubt it'll be any better. I guess i just do not like shallow mounts in general
 
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Squirrel!

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Never head the low profile dayton i doubt it'll be any better. I guess i just do not like shallow mounts in general
Not thrilled with their limitations myself but, I don't like using my whole trunk area for 1 sub, either. ;)
 

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I would do SLD ported. SD-4 is designed for sealed according to Jacob. Same with SD-3.
 

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