Birch box construction

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

It's not even part us thinking you're arrogant, it's the fact that you ACT arrogant about your knowledge rather than just simply stating your facts/opinions & hearing our's out, as well.
I've used Liquid Nails & TiteBond I/II/III & I prefer Liquid Nails.. it seals very well, it bonds very well, not neccessarily on MDF, because MDF is NOT wood..

Birch, poppler and/or any other plywood w/grains, rather than a smooth surface, work quite well with Liquid Nails: Wood.

I didn't wanna post in here again because you have a "never wrong" complex it seems..

But yeah, I'll agree to disagree w/you as well..

You know why I have a never wrong complex about wood glue? Because I used to think EXACTLY like you did, until I actually tested, not used, but actually tested what I was preaching. And you know what happened? I was blatantly wrong. Wood glue beat everything hands down. Therefore, I don't feel bad in the least in sounding arrogant about something that I used to believe what you do about. So if you think I'm arrogant, I'm all for it. Maybe that was I can help some people save time, money and mess.

 

[audioarsonal 10+ year member]

I think alot of people have started out using liquid nails mainly because they didn't have proper equipment.But as they progress they should get better have better tools and more knowledge of box building.With that you realize that if you take your time and have the right equipment you don't need a "filler"(i.e. liquid nails) just wood glue and a tight joint with some screws for clamping is the best way.Not to mention the money you save from buying a less expensive more suited product.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Why do people keep comparing Liquid Nails & Gorilla Glue?
Liquid Nails = caulk.

Gorilla Glue = expanding GLUE.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif Um, liquid nails for this purpose is not a caulk in the least, it's a construction adhesive.

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

You know why I have a never wrong complex about wood glue? Because I used to think EXACTLY like you did, until I actually tested, not used, but actually tested what I was preaching. And you know what happened? I was blatantly wrong. Wood glue beat everything hands down. Therefore, I don't feel bad in the least in sounding arrogant about something that I used to believe what you do about. So if you think I'm arrogant, I'm all for it. Maybe that was I can help some people save time, money and mess.

But dude.. Liquid Nails MAKES Wood glue..

If Liquid Nails: Wood isn't good, then what would you suggest using?

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I think alot of people have started out using liquid nails mainly because they didn't have proper equipment.But as they progress they should get better have better tools and more knowledge of box building.With that you realize that if you take your time and have the right equipment you don't need a "filler"(i.e. liquid nails) just wood glue and a tight joint with some screws for clamping is the best way.Not to mention the money you save from buying a less expensive more suited product.

Exactly, 100%, completely what I've been saying this entire time.

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif Um, liquid nails for this purpose is not a caulk in the least, it's a construction adhesive.

Comes in a caulking tube & is used with a caulking gun..

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

But dude.. Liquid Nails MAKES Wood glue..
If Liquid Nails: Wood isn't good, then what would you suggest using?

No, they make this:http://liquidnails.com/ViewProductDetails.do?productId=56

Whether or not they actually make a true wood glue is irrelevant, so we'll assume they wont. Much like titebond makes construction adhesives, but that's also irrelevant. Wood glue is primarily polyvinyl acetate, which is traditionally either yellow , off white or brown, runny and has the consistency of school white glue. It isn't thick like liquid nails, is water soluble and easy to clean up. THIS is wood glue

 

[audioarsonal 10+ year member]

thanks PV.....Glad to help a fellow hoosier.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Comes in a caulking tube & is used with a caulking gun..

Same product, different container. They have fiberglass putty in caulking tubes, so that's caulk as well?

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

Recommended For: lumber, OSB, paneling, wood molding, particleboard, waferboard, treated lumber, plywood, and drywall.

It clearly states PLYWOOD, which birch IS plywood..

I mean I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm looking for an agreement on YOUR part..

& audioarsenal is correct. That's a BIG reason why many people use Liquid Nails, it's thick & fills any gaps.. which is very useful, versus Titebond.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

It clearly states PLYWOOD, which birch IS plywood..I mean I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm looking for an agreement on YOUR part..

& audioarsenal is correct. That's a BIG reason why many people use Liquid Nails, it's thick & fills any gaps.. which is very useful, versus Titebond.

It isn't wood glue though. It's a glue that can be used on wood, versus wood glue is specifically, and I mean literally chemically made to only bond wood. You could use liquid nails wood version on steel and it would still work (yes, I've done it). Wood glue is about as useful as elmer's school glue when gluing anything but wood.

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

It isn't wood glue though. It's a glue that can be used on wood, versus wood glue is specifically, and I mean literally chemically made to only bond wood. You could use liquid nails wood version on steel and it would still work (yes, I've done it). Wood glue is about as useful as elmer's school glue when gluing anything but wood.

I'm going to seriously ask you to make a thread about why wood glue is MADE for wood..

Like what properties MAKE it better for wood than other glues.. so on & so forth..

Because I stand corrected.

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

& yeah, I'll admit it.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I'm going to seriously ask you to make a thread about why wood glue is MADE for wood..Like what properties MAKE it better for wood than other glues.. so on & so forth..

Because I stand corrected.

Maybe next year, I don't have enough chemistry to know that kinda detailed shit, I just know it's true because I've tested it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

you can just see the way wood glue soaks into the mdf and woods.

I actually accidently glued a piece of mdf that I was using for a measured spacer for like 5 min. I had to get the hammer out to get this small piece of mdf out of my box because of like a quarter sized amount of wood glue.