Birch box construction

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

OH, BTW. Thats a really good price on that Birch if it is truly void free 11 ply. Thats probably right in the range of what you would pay for a sheet of Trupan. Might as well stain that birch //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

x2. Grade A birch at that price is insane. Here at home depot by my house they have grade B or C for about the same price.

 

[Towlieee 10+ year member]

The problem with using construction adhesive in joining panels is that you are using a adhesive that has body, it is creating a space between the 2 substraights that is filled with the adhesive, the adhesive is then the weak spot, the adhesive it self has a very low tensel strength, so once again this is in theory, so depending on the service it is going to see it may work just fine. I will say that using it in the corners of the interior of the box is adding strength to it as apposed to latex caulk.

Alright thats good to know

I'll definitely try wood glue on my next install, and keep the liquid nails for the corners

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Why are people even arguing about this? Wood glue is the best to use. Period. The end.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Alright thats good to know
I'll definitely try wood glue on my next install, and keep the liquid nails for the corners

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Why would you even use liquid nails for the corners? It doesn't do anything just sitting there by itself. If you want to use a sealant, then use...a sealant! Silicone sealant is all you should use.

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

The Trupan I buy up in Zion, comes from a lumber yard in Chicago. Touhy Lumber in Zion is the place I buy it. He could probably put you in touch with the place in Chicago...

 

[bumpincrv 10+ year member]

I dont see how glue holds better than screws i have used titebond and screws and it still broke the bond and broke the screws idk is there a beter glue i should be using

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

I dont see how glue holds better than screws i have used titebond and screws and it still broke the bond and broke the screws idk is there a beter glue i should be using

Sounds like the bond wasn't very good, i.e. the glue didn't cure correctly or there was a gap. I take all the screws out of my boxes when they glue has dried and I've never had a box come apart.

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

I asked the same thing as the op like 1 month ago and everyone just said titebond and brad nails. Now everyone is saying woodglue and screws lol.

Well, I built my box with titebond III, mdf, and 2" brad nails. I used corner clamps and reg clamps really tight everywhere I nailed. It seems really solid, I'm sure it'll hold up for a daily beater. The titebond mdf bonding strength really surprised me.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I dont see how glue holds better than screws i have used titebond and screws and it still broke the bond and broke the screws idk is there a beter glue i should be using

Because screws don't actually hold anything. They just keep the wood panels close to one another, but that isn't a bond. Wood glue literally creates an emulsion of wood fibers at the joint so that when it dries, it's stronger than the wood it's bonding itself. It's much the same as bone density. Your bones are strong, but are relatively soft and fragile. If you break a bone, the new groth there, aka the bond between the two bits of old bone will be stronger than before when you broke it. The same applies to wood glue bonds. I even recycle screws when I'm building a lot of enclosures at one time and don't feel like buying more screws. I'll assemble a box with screws and glue, then once i'm finished, take out the screws and start the next one with the same screws.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

I have to use screws because my cuts ****. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[bumpincrv 10+ year member]

yea my box never came apart but it did break screws and rattle but now i have a new box built wit hscrews and titebond and threaded rod

 

[sqhertz 5,000+ posts]

glue , clamp , pre drill , screw , unclamp and move on? i may have to try this out. im sure ill mess up pre drilling the first couple times but it seems itll save alot of time waiting for glue to dry some before moving on. hm.

 

[audioarsonal 10+ year member]

I put a little dab of TBII in the screw hole before I screw it down.Just a little extra insurance.

 

[sqhertz 5,000+ posts]

but thats all there is to it? or do you pre drill before glueing?

 

[miker 5,000+ posts]

You NEED to pre-drill w/ MDF... Even when screwing two scrap pieces together... It just doesn't work unless you pre-drill...

Just make draw a line across where that you want all your holes on... Pre-drilling is easier than drilling the screws in...