Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

The average price of electricity is 9.49 cents/kwhr the lowest is 6 highest is 16we are talking 10 cents between the 48 states, I don't include alaska or hawaii...So if you use 2000kw/month you are talking about a considerable difference of approx 200.00...So yes that is quite a difference...I stand corrected //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif
but as an example, a 1 liter mtn dew in the 40 states i have been in have been maybe .20 cents difference, same with bread, peanut butter, milk etc... not much difference at all...Cigarettes I have found a huge difference from 25.00/carton to 60.00/carton...I am sure OJ is cheaper in florida or central cal and i am pretty sure beef is cheaper in dodge city ks, but at least fight fair...this was a general statement...I didn't mean to get into every last detail but i opened my mouth and know how this place is, so it is my fault...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

average price of gas in tulsa is 3.618 the average in orange county,ca is 3.672 L.A. is 3.707... okc is 3.500,las vegas is 3.560...

Its only .60 cents difference between the whole country...

I still other then electricity(i had no idea) still stand behind my statement that the basic cost of living is basically the same other then rent/morgage and now electricity...

and to flipx...Blue collar worker then how about a jr carpenter??? Blue collar enough???

33k=wv

35k=nc

41k=oc,ca

44k=ny,ny

so 11k difference

And yes I did say the major differnce in the cost of living is the rent/morgage due to prices of land...look at my posts...

I understand HI is more expensive, I wasn't including HI as that would skew everything way out of proportion...Fight fair at least...

And on the electricity, yes i do stand corrected, I didn't realize that idaho had such a low electricity rate, and rhode island had such a high electricity rate, but the average price of electricity is around 9.5cents/kwhr and most states fall into that catagory with a ave differance of .05cents/kwhr...Like i said i do stand corrected...

I'd like to know where you are getting your facts from, so far everything you have said is wrong.

but keep making up numbers. you are doing a great job of making yourself appear less than intelligent.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

The average price of electricity is 9.49 cents/kwhr the lowest is 6 highest is 16we are talking 10 cents between the 48 states, I don't include alaska or hawaii...So if you use 2000kw/month you are talking about a considerable difference of approx 200.00...So yes that is quite a difference...I stand corrected //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif
but as an example, a 1 liter mtn dew in the 40 states i have been in have been maybe .20 cents difference, same with bread, peanut butter, milk etc... not much difference at all...Cigarettes I have found a huge difference from 25.00/carton to 60.00/carton...I am sure OJ is cheaper in florida or central cal and i am pretty sure beef is cheaper in dodge city ks, but at least fight fair...this was a general statement...I didn't mean to get into every last detail but i opened my mouth and know how this place is, so it is my fault...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

average price of gas in tulsa is 3.618 the average in orange county,ca is 3.672 L.A. is 3.707... okc is 3.500,las vegas is 3.560...

Its only .60 cents difference between the whole country...

I still other then electricity(i had no idea) still stand behind my statement that the basic cost of living is basically the same other then rent/morgage and now electricity...

and to flipx...Blue collar worker then how about a jr carpenter??? Blue collar enough???

33k=wv

35k=nc

41k=oc,ca

44k=ny,ny

so 11k difference

And yes I did say the major differnce in the cost of living is the rent/morgage due to prices of land...look at my posts...

I understand HI is more expensive, I wasn't including HI as that would skew everything way out of proportion...Fight fair at least...

And on the electricity, yes i do stand corrected, I didn't realize that idaho had such a low electricity rate, and rhode island had such a high electricity rate, but the average price of electricity is around 9.5cents/kwhr and most states fall into that catagory with a ave differance of .05cents/kwhr...Like i said i do stand corrected...

Why do you cite the cost of cigarettes in your comparison of what is and what isn't needed for surviving?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Although there is a such thing as a Big Mac Index, I would not submit the cost of a liter of Mt. Dew to any of my professors.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

so, you think that is fair?

You're fuck an A right it's fair. If you make more money you pay more taxes. Thats why they call it INCOME TAX. Fuckin elitists think everything should revolve around them and their money. BTW, Obama's plan is to put the taxes for the rich back where they were when Clinton was in office. But NOT for the working class.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I would say a $50 savings in electricity costs is considerable if one is living on a tight budget.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Income redistribution is horseshit.....not patriotism

Yeah, FUCK YOU church boy. We all know where your loyalty is.

 

[pilyin 10+ year member]

Yeah, FUCK YOU church boy. We all know where your loyalty is.

Please tell us why anybody should pay a higher percentage of their earning than you should bright boy? By the way, what's wrong with going to church? How is that an insult?

 

[pilyin 10+ year member]

I wouldn't agree it was 'blown out of the water'...is it not true that schools in ghetto or low class urban areas dont get the funding necessary as compared to suburban middle to upper class districts...?

Schools in urban areas almost always get more funding than suburban areas because they need it more. Students screw up the schools. Putting more money into the school wont do jack. The parents need to do a better job of parenting.

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

You're fuck an A right it's fair. If you make more money you pay more taxes. Thats why they call it INCOME TAX. Fuckin elitists think everything should revolve around them and their money. BTW, Obama's plan is to put the taxes for the rich back where they were when Clinton was in office. But NOT for the working class.

You are a certified retard. If the tax rate was balanced and fair, the rich would still pay more because they make more.

Holy shit, I thought all of the dumbasses had already chimed in.

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

Schools in urban areas almost always get more funding than suburban areas because they need it more. Students screw up the schools. Putting more money into the school wont do jack. The parents need to do a better job of parenting.

I already said that. Not sure why he's avoiding the response...

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You're fuck an A right it's fair. If you make more money you pay more taxes. Thats why they call it INCOME TAX. Fuckin elitists think everything should revolve around them and their money. BTW, Obama's plan is to put the taxes for the rich back where they were when Clinton was in office. But NOT for the working class.

Obama's plan would raise my taxed then. The lowest bracket would rise from 10 to 15%.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

So, by taking from those who take advantage of opportunity and redistributing wealth to those who didn't, we'd all be better off?

Yep. Because it's not all just black and white like you and your kind try to say it is. Some people DO NOT get the opportunities to be successful. Some people did NOT have a rich household and get to go to the best schools and then go to college and earn a degree. Some people actually have families at a young age and have to raise their families and can't go to college.

Simply put. These people who take advantage were better off to begin with. They were MORE fortunate. NOT better people. I'm not talking about the people that sit around and don't want to do anything. I'm talking about blue collar hard working people that were less fortunate growing up in less than ideal circumstances.

You're talking like an elitist. You seem way out of touch. Maybe you should think about things before you post.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Yep. Because it's not all just black and white like you and your kind try to say it is. Some people DO NOT get the opportunities to be successful. Some people did NOT have a rich household and get to go to the best schools and then go to college and earn a degree. Some people actually have families at a young age and have to raise their families and can't go to college.
Simply put. These people who take advantage were better off to begin with. They were MORE fortunate. NOT better people. I'm not talking about the people that sit around and don't want to do anything. I'm talking about blue collar hard working people that were less fortunate growing up in less than ideal circumstances.

You're talking like an elitist. You seem way out of touch. Maybe you should think about things before you post.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Having a family at a young age is a choice. It is a byproduct of risky behavior between young people. I am supposed to pay for their bad choices?

I am still wanting to meet a person who said they have no opportunities and no chance. I haven't met one. When I begin to describe the choices available, they say they didn't want to move away, do the work, etc.

My parents didn't pay for school. I made student loans. Yeah, I will pay student loan interest for the next 5 years, but that is a choice I made.

 

[lvjeffro 10+ year member]

I'd like to know where you are getting your facts from, so far everything you have said is wrong.
but keep making up numbers. you are doing a great job of making yourself appear less than intelligent.

where is your evidence that I am wrong, if my numbers are wrong it is because the websites are wrong then...

gasbuddy.com for gas prices

http://www.gasbuddy.com/GB_Price_List.aspx

salary.com for wage of workers

http://salary.com/

nebraska government website re: electricty

http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/115.htm

not making up numbers...everything that I have posted is per websites...come on man, don't even start to talk about my intelligence...thats pathetic even for someone from tulsa...

cigarettes was an example of something I noticed had a huge price difference between states...thats all!!!!

and if you go to college,please learn to read, i used 1ltr mtn dew as an example,

I was basically using the big mac index by showing the cost of a simple item cost in different states like the big mac index which measures simple items purchsed with different currencies...So now what???

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

You are a certified retard. If the tax rate was balanced and fair, the rich would still pay more because they make more.


Holy shit, I thought all of the dumbasses had already chimed in.

Then why are you chiming in dumbass.?? I already said that if you make more then you pay more taxes. What part of that didn't you understand *******.?? You fuckin people are so out of touch.