Audiopipe 30001D

[captaincheesey 10+ year member]

Ok, I have searched and can't find anyone asking this question specifically as a thread so here is what's up. There is a for sale thread selling one of these and it is a hella good grab. Downside is that they are not 1 ohm stable, which I have heard differences in opinion on that.

So here is the question, assuming I do try to run it at 1 ohm, can I get away with it after box rise and having a stout electrical. I have a 235HO alt up front along with a red top, 2 runs of 1/0, 1/0 from the battery positive to alt positive, HC2400 and 2 Shuriken BT80s in the back. I was running my Atomic 5000 for a while but the thing was such a current hog and I hadn't ever finished the big 3 that it went poof on me. I need to send it back, but I don't know if I want to deal with sending it back and potentially the same thing happening again even if I try to remedy the issue.

So with my current electrical and box rise, will this audiopipe amp do the job?

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[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

people have done it, I wouldn't do it personally

 

[captaincheesey 10+ year member]

people have done it, I wouldn't do it personally

And that is the problem I am running into. People say, "Others have done it, but I wouldn't." So it's possible, but no one wants to do it because it means wiring the two inside 1500s at .5 each and that can mean amp goes poof, or just goes straight into protect. If the latter happens, then I am stuck with a useless amp because I can't make that work for me.

 

[slim2fattycake 10+ year member]

No... DON'T ever rely on box rise while using the set-up for daily. You cannot predict it with music. Also, don't forget that it takes power to make power. That atomic amp was 5k, hell yeah it would take a lot of current. Also, what were your voltages? And what alternator do you have? I have the ap30001D at 2 ohms for 3k plus everything else and my 270 amp alternator stays above 14volts at IDLE.

 

[captaincheesey 10+ year member]

No... DON'T ever rely on box rise while using the set-up for daily. You cannot predict it with music. Also, don't forget that it takes power to make power. That atomic amp was 5k, hell yeah it would take a lot of current. Also, what were your voltages? And what alternator do you have? I have the ap30001D at 2 ohms for 3k plus everything else and my 270 amp alternator stays above 14volts at IDLE.

I never had the time to really sit down and see how bad my voltages were dropping. I know that before it went poof I was riding around all day hammering on it, it just hated when lower notes would hit, which is expected. But seeing as i will be getting 2k less I assume with my charging system I would be solid.

The main question here isn't "Is my electrical beefy enough?" or "Will box rise help me?" As much as it's "Can I rely on the other two to take this chance?" I know my electrical is solid enough for 3k, no problems.

 

[slim2fattycake 10+ year member]

I answered it already. If you cannot keep the impedance above 1.33 ohms ALL the time, it will go into protect. And it doesn't take a lot of time to see your voltage drops. I don't think amps care for what frequency goes through them either... What's your budget for your amp? Its hard to even find audiopipe 3ks now without being in the 400 dollar range. If that's the case, go ahead and get the audiopipe aqx 3500.1. Stable at 1 ohm. You can find theses for 450-500 shipped. or a crescendo 3kwp for 550 shipped.

 

[captaincheesey 10+ year member]

I answered it already. If you cannot keep the impedance above 1.33 ohms ALL the time, it will go into protect. And it doesn't take a lot of time to see your voltage drops. I don't think amps care for what frequency goes through them either... What's your budget for your amp? Its hard to even find audiopipe 3ks now without being in the 400 dollar range. If that's the case, go ahead and get the audiopipe aqx 3500.1. Stable at 1 ohm. You can find theses for 450-500 shipped. or a crescendo 3kwp for 550 shipped.

Well there is actually a guy selling one of the audiopipes on here for 250 which is why this question came up. As for the frequency, it actually takes more power to produce a lower frequency as opposed to a higher one. Look at a sine wave and look at how one at 50hz compares to one at 30hz. The amount of power required to produce a 30hz note is greater than that to produce a 50hz, which is why on low notes my amp would throw itself into protect. Like I would play Thug Motivation off of Jeezy's first Cd the whole way through with no issues, but playing Hood ***** all the way through would be impossible.

I guess I will just save up some cash and get an amp that will do the job for me and not have to worry about impedance issues. I mean, I don't have a license until august anyways so that's plenty of time to scrap together some money.

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

ok here is the deal. i have both a 1500 and a 3000. i have put them thru there paces and currently run the 15001 @.35 daily. i very rarely run it wide open but no prob running normal music. i can burp my normal 52hz no prob but 50 hz burp goes right into protection. i saw a big jump in output reconing to d.7 and running 1.4 with the 30001. 1 just dont need it that loud daily.

1.33 ohm actually after rise sounds about rite after rise before protection. you will notsmoke this amp from low impedence it will protect itself...

 

[slim2fattycake 10+ year member]

I put the amp in protect each time getting close to half way gain on 2.5 volts from RCA. I was wired at .5 ohms.

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

^ you will put the 30001 in protect every time @.5. that is like running the 15001 @.25.

if ur talking about running the 15001 and it goes into protect at .5 then u have voltage problems, because it will run .5 after rise.

only way i can see someone killing 1 of these amps is to under voltage badly...

 

[matrxx dude 5,000+ posts]

i have the aqx 3500.1,its a beast,and stable to .5