Attn: Stoners

[newusername 10+ year member]

Just because your not as likely to get it does not mean you cant get it. There are going to be bad side effects of inhaling smoke into your lungs.

Yup, and just because I put on a seatbelt (and am therefore less likely to be injured in an accident) does not mean there is no way I will be killed.

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BTW, there have been several articles on the recent study showing little-to-no link from marijuana to cancer. Here's one from the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Quote:Originally Posted by GOOGLE

Definitions of Abusers on the Web:

* people who use drugs in ways that threaten their health or impair their social or economic functioning.

No an abuser is not one who commits to the act of abusing, I would like tho refer you to the the definition of abusers for you to find the answer to that.

If you can prove that marijuana is harmful to your health, or your social or economic functioning then that is when you have become an abuser by definition. You seem be getting the denotation of Abusers and abuse confused with the connotation that is associated with these words.

That link does not work.

But here is where I get my info

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abuser

WordNet - Cite This Source abuser

noun

someone who abuses

WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.

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But, I'll give your definition a shot.

-- If someone chooses drugs over an opportunity not to their economic (in the sense of monetary not of value) best interest then would it not be abuse? For instance, if I have the choice to save or spend the money on drugs, and they chose drugs, would they not be considered an abuser?

-- If they chose to spend the money on drugs rather than proper nutrition, are they not an abuser?

-- If the influence of drugs causes them to expend resouces without due care or to ingest foodstuffs not of proper nutritional quality, are they not an abuser?

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

But, I'll give your definition a shot.

-- If someone chooses drugs over an opportunity not to their economic (in the sense of monetary not of value) best interest then would it not be abuse? For instance, if I have the choice to save or spend the money on drugs, would they not be considered an abuser?

-- If they chose to spend the money on drugs rather than proper nutrition, are they not an abuser?

-- If the influence of drugs causes them to expend resouces without due care or to ingest foodstuffs not of proper nutritional quality, are they not an abuser?

If someone chooses to go see a movie when it is not in their economic best interest, are they an abuser? Same situation with same answer: no.

That is easily the worst argument attempting to define abuse I have seen in quite some time.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

WebMD Medical News
May 8, 2000 (Boston) -- Marijuana, unlike tobacco and alcohol, does not appear to cause head, neck, or lung cancer, says a researcher from Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore who presented findings from a study here recently at a meeting of internal medicine physicians.

If you look further in the report, it talks about increased chance of heart attack. This is due to an increase of heart rate that is produced by the initial shock of THC taking effects. HOWEVER, this effect of increased heart rate is rarely seen in people who smoke marijuana daily and over a long period of time.

NOT TO MENTION, no one has yet to die from marijuana use.

Link: http://www.webmd.com/news/20000508/marijuana-unlikely-to-cause-cancer

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

heated debate?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

if i choose to buy a car audio instead of saving my money am i an abuser?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

If someone chooses to go see a movie when it is not in their economic best interest, are they an abuser? Same situation with same answer: no.
That is easily the worst argument attempting to define abuse I have seen in quite some time.

you missed that flip was actually blowing holes into the definition provided by another poster.

flip ftw.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

If someone chooses to go see a movie when it is not in their economic best interest, are they an abuser? Same situation with same answer: no.
That is easily the worst argument attempting to define abuse I have seen in quite some time.

I believe any time you do not use money to create more wealth or value, they you are abusing. Not always drugs, but going to the movies does not create wealth or value for the viewer of the movie. One could be doing much better things with their time other than entertainment. I, for one, do not go to the movies because the value of the entertainment is less than the ticket price.

I was attempting to define abuse within the definition given, not the actual definition of the word. I admit it was a reach.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

This is true, I cant dig up the aritcile(s) at work. However ive read that while tobacco contains tar that sticks to your lungs, marijuana for some reason does the opposite. The tar in marijuana smoke on a chemical level doesnt stick to lungs.

I do believe you are correct and this being the reason that people who smoke mariuana a lot tend to get those really nasty black luggies. But hey, atleast your spitting it out instead of keeping it in your lungs.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Me and flip, should rule the world.

He could run the economic system and i could run the social.

Josh and Josh ftmfw.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

My names Josh too

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

if i choose to buy a car audio instead of saving my money am i an abuser?

I would say you are making an irrational choice by allocating resouces to a depreciating asset. But, I buy as much car audio as the next person. Unfortunately, I am not always rational, no matter how hard I try.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

if i choose to buy a car audio instead of saving my money am i an abuser?

Bingo. Good to see some common sense prevailing.

Something worth knowing: marijuana has the highest ratio of fatal dose:effective dose, whereas nutmeg has the second lowest ratio. In case you need more clarification, nutmeg is more toxic than marijuana (hence why it is a banned substance in most prisons). Also worth noting that alcohol is approximately 100 times more toxic than marijuana.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Me and flip, should rule the world.
He could run the economic system and i could run the social.

Josh and Josh ftmfw.

I am not as good as I would like to be. I need much more education in economic policy as economic policy affects social policy. I don't think it would be possible to keep them independant.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

My names Josh too

pending upon further examination of your qualifications, we might make you a cabinet member of secretary of something.