I dont see how I jumped to conclusions. Like stated many times I am not seeing any upgrades on this revision that will make it a true upgrade. Really if they are that hard set on upgrades the focus should be on QC as China isn't aligning the coils very well on the assembly line and causing specs from every other woofer to also be within .5db sens of each other.
I think I was being very reasonable. I called asked to speak to someone was put on hold then told "sorry they switch build-houses" , "nothing they can do". So i call back within 20min and ask to speak to a supervisor, put on hold.... Then told i would be "getting a call back" and not to "post nothing about this as it will travel fast" Says the amplifier tech. So that leads me to believe he knew something about the altered plates and didn't want me saying anything until I get a call back.
Nearly all day goes by and I don't get a return call. I discuss this over with another speaker engineer who does it for a hobby and told me all those alterations will make the TSP's shift drastically". Not that they will line up anyway with their publish specs because the other model didn't either, according to klippel tests. Seeing as this person has done tests and had hands in developments on speakers I know he is very trustworthy and has a lot more knowledge than me. Since this person is in a different state and getting him a speaker to test would take a while, I needed to get a build done before this coming weekend for an IASCA event, I asked how he thought they would work with my current box. One that was built to his specs according to Klippel tests of the Rev2 CVL8-500-4. He replied saying if the top and bottom plates are altered within a 16th from the rev2 they would nearly affect every TSP and change nearly everything on how it reacted in the gap of the sub. I would have to build a different box then what I currently have. He stated power handling could be affected as well as transient response. They would react different with my power I was using and so on... So later that evening I posted the awareness thread because I know there are many people jumping to buy them on
Amazon and to be cautious as they would have different TSP's and require a different box setup.
Realistically, I am not seeing how I'm being hostel or non compliant. I have been sitting awaiting for a phone call as to why the alterations were made if it was such an "upgrade" More over every time I see something it appears to be more of a cover after cover so there is no admission of the factory in China making a mishap. Which does happen, hell they can't even align coils properly.
There's no doubt in my mind they wont work for some people. But I am not "some people". The alteration would require me to rebuild and adjust to get optimum out of these which in turn most likely still wouldn't help with my scores.
This whole thing was posted to let people know about the new revisions, considering Cadence didn't have the courtesy to let the audio enthusiast community know before hand. And that there would be knew parameters for these models as soon as possible. I am not arguing as my grounds of basis is very solid. I will have valid Klippel accurate proof (which in case everyone don't know is the truest form of publishing speaker TSP's) of the new specs versus the rev2 series. I am not arguing anything other than if the VP claims this was done in accordance to upgrade the speaker in output wise, then why didnt they publish the new specs of what was upgraded. Most certainly I'm sure they know very well about marketing, so they would want to advertise the hell out of these new revisions to let the world know they have been upgraded from their previous revisions.
Roy, i am not outing nor being hostel, just pointing out the cold hard facts. I was told a phone call would happen and even on the 2nd day you replied with " what is your contact number" and to "please email you" because my PM box was full. That as a matter was not even close to full. You seem very stand up but it more and more appears to still be a giant cover up and to try and prove me wrong without any valid proof of an upgrade. I am all ears, but I definitely don't want to hear what Chinas excuse is for the remake because they haven't got many things right the 5th time around.
Is there a real speaker designer/engineer there that can test and pull appropriate measurements and publish them accordingly, or is he off again? Surely if there was a remodel of this series done by your "engineer" then he should be able to post a CAD view of the drafted motors before production. There should be nothing to hide there as you all still seem to think everyone is copying your equipment anyway.
