ASPM-1300 disappeared? from ebay?

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

If they can afford to sell a "1500" watt amp for $125 SHIPPED.......you know it must be packed with all kinds of quality. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Take a good SQ sub/install and run an AP amp and a quality amp in A/B comparison.....I guarantee you can hear a difference and if you can't, you must be deaf. I've heard a few AP installs myself and they just sound muddy and don't have the authority that clean power does.

times muthafuking 10... you hit the nail on the head.

 

[EpicMango 10+ year member]

I just don't get how when I was planning my old Skar Build, a lot of people refered me to the ASPM 1300 in the first place, some of them are very popular around these forums. Who do I believe????

 

[fannin88 10+ year member]

I understand that. But what Im saying is, lets say the 1300 is rated 1200@1, ok, so if it will actually do 900@1....in a daily car, is anyone even really going to notice? I can see why somebody who is hard into this would prefer something more, but I dont think the other guy, as well as myself is to concerned. Not enough to spend an extra $50+. He wants 600@2, I want 800ish@1. I beleive we can both aceive what we want with a $100 amp.

To me this sounds like a Ford-Chevy-Dodge type situation. One always thinks one is trash, one is decent at best, and one cant be beat. But maybe Im seeing things wrong.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

I just don't get how when I was planning my old Skar Build, a lot of people refered me to the ASPM 1300 in the first place, some of them are very popular around these forums. Who do I believe????

people that have actually tested them. ask pro rabbit he knows exactly what they do and he is more reputable for specs than anyone i know, .

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

So does anyone have links to o-scope results?

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

I understand that. But what Im saying is, lets say the 1300 is rated 1200@1, ok, so if it will actually do 900@1....in a daily car, is anyone even really going to notice? I can see why somebody who is hard into this would prefer something more, but I dont think the other guy, as well as myself is to concerned. Not enough to spend an extra $50+. He wants 600@2, I want 800ish@1. I beleive we can both aceive what we want with a $100 amp.To me this sounds like a Ford-Chevy-Dodge type situation. One always thinks one is trash, one is decent at best, and one cant be beat. But maybe Im seeing things wrong.

but its not just hear say. the people that are telling you what is wrong with them have tested and had them. i guess you will learn for yourself. i would be willing to bet money that if you heard what a real clean signal is you will never use any audiopipe amp

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

on the mini no but the ap series (1 series above) i have personally done test with and owned. a buddy of mine has the apsm series amp in a ford ranger stock electrical and sees 11v with the gains a hair under 800rms at 1 ohm.

they are junk. always have been always will. but like i said you guys will eventually learn. but waste money in the process

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

Hey for its 2 ohm 600 watt RMS rating, its perfect for the Infinity Reference subs I want to get. I think I picked a solid amp for my setup. Now if I wanted to do a 1 ohm stable 1000 watt RMS, I would've gone with the new ASPM 1500. Building a budget system, not a $900 knock your socks off system.

Dont need to spend $900 for better quality than AP. Even a lower powered, higher quality amp would do better than the AP.

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Should've gone used. I had a JL 500/1 and a kicker zx750.1 both of which I got for $100 each and both of which I'd take over the AP amp. Hate I sold them....but at least I got another zx750 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[skylineTT 10+ year member]

Dont need to spend $900 for better quality than AP. Even a lower powered, higher quality amp would do better than the AP.

I was just about to say this. I tested an AP 1800.1 vs. an ED Nine.1 in the same car, same everything. and the ED is louder and sounds much cleaner. it costs twice as much but it is only rated at 1200 at 1 ohm as to where the AP was rated at 1800. There is a huge difference.

 

[globalminds_ent 10+ year member]

I'm just not a fan of ap but I'm not a hater

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

so you have tested them with an o-scope and clamp?nice. because i know at 1 ohm they do 750. there is a clamp thread here about it

my old 1500 did 1200 clean @ 1 ohm. and thats with solid electrical. and hell. they **** current anyway so what are you going to do for a battery up front?

its not worth running amps when the electrical out weighs what the amp does

brad get a grip. ive used them. clamped mine and a buddies. they both did the same ol crap. the price is great for power. but they are so inefficient it really doesnt make it worth buying

So you're saying that amplifier that produces 750rms @ 1 ohm for around 40% cheaper than the competition is a bad investment?

And you're also saying that 750rms @ 1 ohm (or even funnier, say 500 @ 2 ohms) would require more electrical modifications than a more expensive amp that produces more or similar power?

Do me a favor and pull your head out of your ***.

For someone who knows that they wont get rated, and dont need rated power, these APSM amps are excellent purchases.

Do you know what Newtons Law is? If i needed a 1000rms amp, I would have no problem purchasing an amp rated for 2000rms that actually produces 1000rms rather than buying a rated 1000rms amp that costs twice as much.

 

[globalminds_ent 10+ year member]

I just wAnt to say this I ran a power acoustik staxx 5500 (5500 lmao) but to be honest efficiently it wasn't bad ran it at half ohm so I maybe got 2k out of it. Power acoustic has some nice looking budget amps

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

So you're saying that amplifier that produces 750rms @ 1 ohm for around 40% cheaper than the competition is a bad investment?
And you're also saying that 750rms @ 1 ohm (or even funnier, say 500 @ 2 ohms) would require more electrical modifications than a more expensive amp that produces more or similar power?

Do me a favor and pull your head out of your ***.

For someone who knows that they wont get rated, and dont need rated power, these APSM amps are excellent purchases.

Do you know what Newtons Law is? If i needed a 1000rms amp, I would have no problem purchasing an amp rated for 2000rms that actually produces 1000rms rather than buying a rated 1000rms amp that costs twice as much.

im afraid you are the one with the head problem. they are very inefficient. how many have you used installed and clamped? keep your mouth shut. because all you are doing is covering up the fact of how bad they are. many people already know.

 

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I just wAnt to say this I ran a power acoustik staxx 5500 (5500 lmao) but to be honest efficiently it wasn't bad ran it at half ohm so I maybe got 2k out of it. Power acoustic has some nice looking budget amps

the staxx arent bad at all..

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

im afraid you are the one with the head problem. they are very inefficient. how many have you used installed and clamped? keep your mouth shut. because all you are doing is covering up the fact of how bad they are. many people already know. 

 

You are misunderstanding me. I'll write it up so a 5th grader can read it.

 

A person needs 750RMS @ 1 ohm.

 

an APSM-1300 is rated @ 1000rms, but actually produces 750rms as you state. So, thats 750rms CLAMPED POWER for $110 via ebay

 

The next cheapest options i can think of for 750rms @ 1 ohm are mbquart ONYX and hifonics, both of which are decently priced.

 

A Hifonics HIFI1000 runs $150 shipped

 

A ONYX1000 is also $150 shipped

 

The APSM might not do rated, but the person needing the 750rms will be plenty satisfied, and he will save himself $40 - that essentially turns into a free box or a free wiring kit

 

 

 

 

 

Now, i know your smart *** is going to come back with "well why dont you buy an ramp that does a rated output of 750rms rather than 1000"

 

Feel free to find me an amp that does 750rms @ 1 ohm rated, that is cheaper than an APSM-1300 @ $110 shipped. Most marketed amps fall at 500 or 1000rms ratings, so an amplifier designed to produce power in between those marks will usually be mainsteam equipment, which will obviously come with a larger price tag.

 

Is your head out yet?