Aq hdc4???

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Any chance of them building a sub that sounds good?

You know better than that.....sounding good is an opinion. You just trying to start shit, lol.

 

[mazdakid 5,000+ posts]

Any chance of them building a sub that sounds good?

What models have you tried in a nicely designed box?

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

I think he needs to drop the HDC line to the mid level and do something that is actually big. Where is the 2K-2.5K rated stuff. Go big or go home.

I agree. While the HDC3 is AQ's high end sub, people comparing it to subs like the DC Level 5 or Nightshade is laughable, because there's no way the HDC can handle that much power...

But on the other hand, I agree that the HDC3 isn't an ideal choice for someone who owns a 1000-1200W amp. It simply takes more power than that to get them moving.

The SDC can handle 900 daily though. Mine got stinky, but not warm at all. And that was with no electrical...so with a clean signal I can see it taking 1k all day long.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

Any chance of them building a sub that sounds good?

Have you ever run them, silly?

Mine didn't sound good, but that was due to the box, not the sub.

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

And it only took one sentence. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[mazdakid 5,000+ posts]

I agree. While the HDC3 is AQ's high end sub, people comparing it to subs like the DC Level 5 or Nightshade is laughable, because there's no way the HDC can handle that much power...
But on the other hand, I agree that the HDC3 isn't an ideal choice for someone who owns a 1000-1200W amp. It simply takes more power than that to get them moving.

The SDC can handle 900 daily though. Mine got stinky, but not warm at all. And that was with no electrical...so with a clean signal I can see it taking 1k all day long.

Did you not see where Mike said he runs 2 aq 3500s daily on each 15" hdc3? If you know what youre doing, they can take some power.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

But on the other hand, I agree that the HDC3 isn't an ideal choice for someone who owns a 1000-1200W amp. It simply takes more power than that to get them moving.

It really isn't. I've had a HDC310a and a HDC318 on an eD 9.1 (so ~1200 before imp. rise). They could've taken so much more. The 18 I bought brand new, and it wasn't even broken in by the time I sold it (3 months of play every day).

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

Efficiency > high power handling.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

Did you not see where Mike said he runs 2 aq 3500s daily on each 15" hdc3? If you know what youre doing, they can take some power.

I can't really picture them taking that much daily...I'd love to be proven wrong though.

It really isn't. I've had a HDC310a and a HDC318 on an eD 9.1 (so ~1200 before imp. rise). They could've taken so much more. The 18 I bought brand new, and it wasn't even broken in by the time I sold it (3 months of play every day).

My SDC was stiff after two months of 600W and four months of 900W.

Efficiency > high power handling.

I've always wondered about this myself. People claim that if you want a sub to handle more power, you should make the box smaller. Even if you have extra power, what's more efficient? Larger box with the gain set mildly or a smaller box and more power?

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

It doesn't make sense that so many people on here get boners off how much power a sub can handle. A sub can be a piece of shit (not loud), but still be able to handle a crap ton of power. I'll take the sub that will do the most with the least.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

It doesn't make sense that so many people on here get boners off how much power a sub can handle. A sub can be a piece of shit (not loud), but still be able to handle a crap ton of power. I'll take the sub that will do the most with the least.

Perhaps because not everyone has a ton of space for a subwoofer enclosure? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

I've always wondered about this myself. People claim that if you want a sub to handle more power, you should make the box smaller. Even if you have extra power, what's more efficient? Larger box with the gain set mildly or a smaller box and more power?

A smaller box helps more with mechanical handling of the power than anything. The suspension has more control over the cone movement in a smaller box and tends to lessen the excursion (rule of thumb, of course). How much power the coil can handle doesn't really change between a small and big box. How long a coil will last depends on its ability to stay cool.

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

Perhaps because not everyone has a ton of space for a subwoofer enclosure? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

I'm not necessarily talking about enclosure space, I'm speaking of driver efficiency. Some subs are more efficient than others, hands down.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

A smaller box helps more with mechanical handling of the power than anything. The suspension has more control over the cone movement in a smaller box and tends to lessen the excursion (rule of thumb, of course). How much power the coil can handle doesn't really change between a small and big box. How long a coil will last depends on its ability to stay cool.

Never considered it as such; that is, making the box smaller to limit mechanical handling of power.

So in a smaller box with more power, you'd be achieving the same amount of excursion, while putting more power on the coil. More power equals, in most instances, heat. Heat equals resistance. So wouldn't it be pointless?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'm not necessarily talking about enclosure space, I'm speaking of driver efficiency. Some subs are more efficient than others, hands down.

It seems like the more efficient subs can't handle that much power (do not count the DDZ). If you're trying to get as loud as possible with a limited amount of subs and have gobbs of power, I would think you'd want to use all the power you can.