Anything wrong with qlogic kick panels?

I checked Qlogic's website and they only have products that fit up to 6.125" in a 91 camaro. I doubt they'll bother making anything new for cars that old but I'll check crutchfield too. Thanks.

 
Well......first of all they really aren't made out of much and you really need to reinforce them. It is basically 1/8" moulded abs. Second, they are universal and don't work well with all speaker types (some speakers work extremely well off axis, some work better on axis) I'd say go buy you some materials and make you some. If you need some pointers or help let me know. I'll walk you through it.

 
Well I've looked into the DIY option, read many tutorials, and it's not something I want to do right now. I have no workshop, I'm pretty sure my first few attempts will be hack jobs, and summer is running out fast. I may get into it after I have my system installed.

What would be involved in reinforcing the qlogic panels? I'd imagine it would be done on the inside thus avoiding any possible asthetic mishaps. Also, how do I tell the difference between speakers that work well on or off axis?

Thank you.

 
Definitly need reinforcing and to be closed off in the back or else midbase will **** and so will overall sound.

You can use regular sound deading for the interior to make it heavier and stiffer.

For the back, if you don't feel like using fiberglass, you can use bondo reinforced with fiberglass, it's really hard and easy to mix and use, the only thing you have to figure out is how to go about molding the back with the bondo\Fiberglass.

 
Well I've looked into the DIY option, read many tutorials, and it's not something I want to do right now. I have no workshop, I'm pretty sure my first few attempts will be hack jobs, and summer is running out fast. I may get into it after I have my system installed.
What would be involved in reinforcing the qlogic panels? I'd imagine it would be done on the inside thus avoiding any possible asthetic mishaps. Also, how do I tell the difference between speakers that work well on or off axis?

Thank you.

I can understand. It is aggrevating having to work out in the yard but that is what I have done since I started doing everything. Just curious, how is your summer running out? Where do you live? Anyway, as for reinforcing, you can use deadener as listed before to make them a little heavier and reduce resonance behind the panel. Also a good thing to do is close it in but you don't want to get into any glassing so I guess that is kinda out. As for the speakers on axis/off axis, they usually tell in a manual somewhere. I'll be honest though, unless you are building some kick panels don't worry about it too much most any should work in your situation plus you won't be able to do any aiming with Q-Logic panels.

 
I can understand. It is aggrevating having to work out in the yard but that is what I have done since I started doing everything. Just curious, how is your summer running out? Where do you live? Anyway, as for reinforcing, you can use deadener as listed before to make them a little heavier and reduce resonance behind the panel. Also a good thing to do is close it in but you don't want to get into any glassing so I guess that is kinda out. As for the speakers on axis/off axis, they usually tell in a manual somewhere. I'll be honest though, unless you are building some kick panels don't worry about it too much most any should work in your situation plus you won't be able to do any aiming with Q-Logic panels.
Well, I'm still in the research phase, as i'm somewhat of a newbie. By the time I figure out what I want, get it ordered, designed and installed i'll be running out of summer time :p. I would mind doing any behind the scenes fiberglass work, so I could probably tackle the reinforcement job. Oh and I don't really have a yard either haha... lots of open parking spots though lol.

So would it be good to start by coating the inside of the panel with fiberglass mat and resign and whatnot? Or should I be using dynamat, etc? Is that poly fill stuff worth it? I could see how closing the back could be difficult without affecting the outside look. Although then again I haven't even seen the back of the Q logic panels.

One last question: Should I worry about the specific volume of the enclosure, or is that less of a concern with such a small driver?

 
Well, I'm still in the research phase, as i'm somewhat of a newbie. By the time I figure out what I want, get it ordered, designed and installed i'll be running out of summer time :p. I would mind doing any behind the scenes fiberglass work, so I could probably tackle the reinforcement job. Oh and I don't really have a yard either haha... lots of open parking spots though lol.
So would it be good to start by coating the inside of the panel with fiberglass mat and resign and whatnot? Or should I be using dynamat, etc? Is that poly fill stuff worth it? I could see how closing the back could be difficult without affecting the outside look. Although then again I haven't even seen the back of the Q logic panels.

One last question: Should I worry about the specific volume of the enclosure, or is that less of a concern with such a small driver?

Excuse me, parking lot LOL Anyway, on the inside of the panel you could take fiberglass chopped matt and resin and reinforce them. After that I would put a layer of deadener on that as well if not non hardening modeling clay. The q-logic panels are completely open on the back side. It isn't that difficult to close it in but it would require some glass work. If you want to know how I'll send you some pictures. As for volume, you will want it to open up into the open area behind the kick panel, usually it has a small plastic piece over it or it may be completely open. Sometimes wiring will be run through it to go to the doors.

 
Will you send me pictures on how to glass the back of the q-logics? Mine sound like absolute ass because they don't fit that well and so much air is escaping it sounds like crap, no midbass at all =9

 
Will you send me pictures on how to glass the back of the q-logics? Mine sound like absolute ass because they don't fit that well and so much air is escaping it sounds like crap, no midbass at all =9
Sure. These are some that I built out of the factory panel but you will get the idea. Basically just have to connect the fiberglass piece to the q-logic panel. You will probably have to glass it onto it and texture/repaint it as well. You will have to excuse the quality of some of the pictures. I'd say try it with it completely closed and see how it sounds first before you cut through into the area behind the panel. Also be sure to do something to the q-logic part to strengthen it up or add mass to it.

http://www.undefinedcustoms.com/darylsilverado.html

 
Excuse me, parking lot LOL Anyway, on the inside of the panel you could take fiberglass chopped matt and resin and reinforce them. After that I would put a layer of deadener on that as well if not non hardening modeling clay. The q-logic panels are completely open on the back side. It isn't that difficult to close it in but it would require some glass work. If you want to know how I'll send you some pictures. As for volume, you will want it to open up into the open area behind the kick panel, usually it has a small plastic piece over it or it may be completely open. Sometimes wiring will be run through it to go to the doors.
will the q logics warp if u lace them with fiber glass or will they keep their shape and hows the imaging on them?

 
The ones I had were pretty sturdy (I bought them before I started glassing) but I guess every set is different. It may be best to just layer them with some mat on the actual panel. As for imaging, basically they make them to fit the vehicle it seems. Some of them fire straight into the bottom of the dash and some towards the center. It really depends on the vehilcle.

 
i have the q-form kicks in my accord with a set of Hertz 3ways with 200rms to each side.

Sounds Great. I have my 6.5's in the doors, and the 3" and tweets in the kicks. The 3" and tweets are kinda angled funny, and at first I didn't think it would make for good imaging, but it does sound really goood. I can close my eyes and its hard to tell where teh sound is coming from, as it is very transparent. Im sure some of it has to do with speaker quality, but im happy and it was hella easier to just slap some dynamat on the q-forms to reinforce them than it would have been to custom make kicks.. espcially when the qforms are color matched to the interior and look flush...

 
By the time you get done ****ing around with glassing some expensive plastic you might as well build some full kicks...
You do have a point, especially when you have to pay over 150 dollars for a piece of ABS plastic that doesn't have any speaker holes and isn;t reinforced. On the other hand, I drive a manual and I'm looking for a "stock as possible" look. And the 6.5" mids I planned on putting in the kicks will only a few liters of airspace and they are only playing down to about 250-300hz. I don't know if I'd really want to put all that extra time into making kicks when they Q-Logics should work well.

 
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