anyone in the air force?

nothing against you, but i see it differently, having being in their shoes. maybe they joined because it would help better their lives. you also "volunteer" to work your job to better your life, correct? the difference is that these people are getting shot and killed in their line of work. there are also a lot of people that didnt join because of the benefits. i've met very wealthy people that joined for different reasons, being they thought it was the right thing to do, or family traditions or whatever. i know quite a few people that are in Iraq/Afghanistan at this very moment. i have the utmost respect for all of our servicemen and if it weren't for these people (very few i should say, in comparison to the overall population) we would not be able to enjoy our freedoms (which are getting ever-so-thinned). i know this war isn't for our freedom, or anything to do with our country at all, but the people are there doing their job and getting killed while representing our country. and for that i can respect them
I Feel you Req about life on the ship... BLOWS... no pun intended. ( ya know whistles and all the like..nvm) ACE, hey man, oorah for helpin all of our brothers, but come to think of it, it is our light hearted competitivnous(sp?) between the branches that kind of brings us together in our own sick way. But remember you are not the only ordinance technician out there in Iraq, you have Marines, Sailors, other Airmen, and soldiers in the sandbox making sure we can get the bombs to the fight. OORAH!Caliboy.. Are you trying to say that many of my brothers and sisters in arms joined because we had nothing better to do or no other way to better our own lives? We CHOSE to fight for our country. It IS a sacrifice that we make. Not being around our families, our friends or even our own country a lot of the time. As Req was saying he is stuck on a **** boat 8 months out of a year, sharing a small *** room with at least 4 other sailors, probably hot racking and the only space he can really call his own is about 3 feet wide, 6 inches long, and he only has 2 and a half feet of clearance before he rams his head into the overhead beneath another sailors bunk. he has approx. 6 inches deep of storage space underneath his rack, and one of the small gym locker room style lockers to keep all of his personal belongings.

We are TOLD what to do and how to do it all day everyday. We have orders and regulations governing all that we do.

If you foul up on a job, you get fired right? If we foul up, we get demoted, loss of all pay and benefits and thrown into club fed?

see my comparison? I know i only hit very few points but there are many more.

I am not saying we are Any better people than civilians, but typically we are a lot more disciplined and have a much higher work ethic and a sense of comradarie
Both valid points, however i see it as:

it is part of thier job, it is what they choose to do. they are compensated for what they do and given a wide open chances for career development in the future. They have an incentive for doing what they do is all I am saying; we in society make it out to be much more pretigious than i really see it to be.

 
coast guard for me, in January

Id try and get the highest score as possible on the ASVAB test, also look in to getting in as an officer, if you have college under your belt. my bro could not stress this enough..

 
hmm its this talk which questoins WHY people think SO much of service men,
yes, i do acknowledge and aplaud you for joining the service to "serve" our country but it's really funny that about 80% of the people that join only joined because they had no other option of bettering their lives; for THAT reason are they supposed to be looked upon HIGHER than me in society? Because someone had nothing going on in their life that they joined the military and now all out of the sudden they are better than me? Service people have as much respect from me than the average civilian taking care of thier family and working a regular job. They get NO special treatment from me like other people give them, thinking they are sacraficing themselves for our country's liberties; the truth of the matter is they joined because they had nothing else going on or to better themselves for the FUTURE, not for our nation......

i can expand but regal8r I am proud to say you've a great e-friend, i you join ANY military service I only wish you the best and I hope you find what your looking for.
There is actually a lot of truth to what you say and I respect the fact that you said it. Too many people will just say, "I support the troops" and in fact they do nothing (beyond paying their taxes and spouting off once in a while). At least you don't feel the need to blindly bandwaggon.

I will not say I take it as far as you, but you are not too far off the mark in many, if not most, instances.

 
There is actually a lot of truth to what you say and I respect the fact that you said it. Too many people will just say, "I support the troops" and in fact they do nothing (beyond paying their taxes and spouting off once in a while). At least you don't feel the need to blindly bandwaggon.
I will not say I take it as far as you, but you are not too far off the mark in many, if not most, instances.
IMO, paying taxes is supporting the troops.

 
its mostly got to do with health. if you are an otherwise healthy person and can run a 1.5 mile in 10~15 minutes and do 50 pusuhps\crunches - you can get through bootcamp.
PT is required now, Depending on your waist measurement(which is BS)gotta be able to do a certain amount of pushups and situps in 1 minute and run 1.5 miles in a certain time. It all depends on you waist though. Me I'm

when i was in the army about 2yrs ago, we had to do way more PT than that daily, and that was after basic training and AIT. if you want to go the laziest way (nothing wrong with that) go AF. i'd say it much easier than the army. we had to be able to do 42 push-ups in 2min, then do 56 sit-ups in 2min, and then run 2 miles in less than 15:56 (my best was 14:30).
wow, the physical requirements are quite low for all of them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

sounds like a cake walk
 
when i was in the army about 2yrs ago, we had to do way more PT than that daily, and that was after basic training and AIT. if you want to go the laziest way (nothing wrong with that) go AF. i'd say it much easier than the army. we had to be able to do 42 push-ups in 2min, then do 56 sit-ups in 2min, and then run 2 miles in less than 15:56 (my best was 14:30). when i was going thru basic there was a "former" marine that was like 46 going in the army.
good times...
mind you this is with 10min intervals...

 
coast guard for me, in January
Id try and get the highest score as possible on the ASVAB test, also look in to getting in as an officer, if you have college under your belt. my bro could not stress this enough..
i have some college, but never graduated...

 
i have some college, but never graduated...
talk to a recruiter, they are not all that bad. mine is cool as hell and did not bug me too much.. though army they pretty much hold your hand. lol

get the ASVAB out of the way and make SURE you know excatly what you want out of the air force. do not let the recruiter force you in to anything you do not want, and don't be afraid to let him know that.

and just be physically fit, the AF boot may not be all that bad, but it is still a standard boot camp and you will do work.

and even some college can help. ask about signing bonus and other bonuses

 
talk to a recruiter, they are not all that bad. mine is cool as hell and did not bug me too much.. though army they pretty much hold your hand. lol
get the ASVAB out of the way and make SURE you know excatly what you want out of the air force. do not let the recruiter force you in to anything you do not want, and don't be afraid to let him know that.

and just be physically fit, the AF boot may not be all that bad, but it is still a standard boot camp and you will do work.
i just seen that maximum weight for my height (71") is 197lbs, im about 215 right now, so i think i will need to lose some weight first...

lol

 
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