Amp Benching?

well that doesnt make sense to me now b/c i wnat to test my amp(s) at 2ohm and 1ohm but parts express doesn't sell 1 or 2ohm ones only 8 and 4ohm?

as for the power supply i believe they are amped for like 90amps but i will defintaly check them out before i use them.

what i wanted to do was just bring my amp in and put the power supply to it, hook the o-scope up then do as you said up a few post with the dmm meter then go from there! i dont' think i will worry about hooking a load of up to it b/c that could get expensive at 30/shot plus shipping!! i would need like 6 lol!!

also i will do in the school so if soemthing goes wrong hell i paid tuitions who cares plus i will have my teacher there lol it will be an experience to be had! plus i will get pics you know the good stuff!

 
well that doesnt make sense to me now b/c i wnat to test my amp(s) at 2ohm and 1ohm but parts express doesn't sell 1 or 2ohm ones only 8 and 4ohm?
as for the power supply i believe they are amped for like 90amps but i will defintaly check them out before i use them.

what i wanted to do was just bring my amp in and put the power supply to it, hook the o-scope up then do as you said up a few post with the dmm meter then go from there! i dont' think i will worry about hooking a load of up to it b/c that could get expensive at 30/shot plus shipping!! i would need like 6 lol!!

also i will do in the school so if soemthing goes wrong hell i paid tuitions who cares plus i will have my teacher there lol it will be an experience to be had! plus i will get pics you know the good stuff!
LAWL

 
Crap work just called me in need to take off! but i also have some unanswered questions!

load related:

1. do i have to use one (i assume yes?)

2. should i buy like 6 of those dummy loads? (to test a 1000rms at 2ohm amp to see max power at 2ohm)

3. or can i use a sub which will take 2k rms at 2ohm?

hooking it up

1. on my power supply is too much amps good or bad

2. can someone send me a pic of how it should be hooked up the one posted earily doesn't work

3. you are awesome just though i would put that out there!!

 
I have a 300A 24V variable SMPS power supply that I built some time ago during my power switching hobby, though 300A is the max I've seen it do for about 5 seconds due to improper cooling. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Working on a water cooling system in the meantime anyways.

As for the advice on the oscilloscope, you NEED to have a 10x probe or external voltage divider unless your scope is able to handle high voltages! (20v/div or more(rare), assuming 8-10divs total) You could also use a current transformer and a load resistor array to measure current given a certain ratio made from turn ratio, voltage, and load resistance. I am not about to give a tutorial, there are plenty sources online. Usually this is only used on high frequency work, but if you have a LF (basic line transformer would work, technically, 60Hz) laminated iron core transformer it should work for bass tests, can work with volt meter and oscope, though on a scope you would have to take the peak and divide by 1.414 to get RMS voltage therein current.

Dummy load sources: High powered ones are not cheap, and in my opinion making an array would be your best bet, every time you add a resistor to the array, you add the rating of that resistor to the array's power handling value.

http://www.surplussales.com/Resistors/NonInductive/Res-NonInd_list.htm

Is a great list, though shipping is a bit high for a couple of resistors, I would recommend taking a look around, GREAT site.

 
Why would you want to bench your amp they aren't that heavy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif
LMAO o man that is soo funny!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif lol bravo!! lol!! encore! lol!

no really that gave me a good chuckle thanks!!

 
well for everyone and anyone wondering hwo to do this look what i found!

EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO MEASURE OUTPUT POWER

To accurately measure output power, you will need:

1.A regulated D.C. power supply capable of powering any amplifier that you need to test

2.A set of high power resistors. They must be rated to handle the power output of any amplifier which you need to test.

3.An oscilloscope to view the waveform.

4.Some sort of tone generator. A sine wave generator is a good choice but you may be able to get by with a CD player and a test tone disc.

5.A digital voltmeter capable of measuring A.C. voltage. A true RMS meter would be nice.

NOTE:This information is only to let you know how the test is done. If you have all of this equipment, you will probably already know how to make this test.

TEST EQUIPMENT SETUP

Connect the 12v power supply to the power wires on the amplifier.

Connect the power resistors (dummy loads) to all of the channels of the amplifier.

Set the gain controls for all channels of the amplifier to the same level. Either all of the way up or all of the way down will probably be the easiest. You can make fine gain adjustments at a later time.

Connect the tone (sine wave) generator to all of the amplifier channels. Turn the output level of the tone generator all of the way down.

Turn the power supply on. If it is adjustable, set it where you want it (12 volts, 13.8, 14.4 your choice).

Power the remote terminal of the amplifier.

Measure the output voltage of the D.C. power supply (it should be the same as before the amplifier was turned on).

Set all equalization to the off position and set all crossovers to full range.

Set the output frequency of the generator to any frequency that you want. I generally use 100hz. You should always use the same frequency or at least make note of the frequency used during the test.

Slowly increase the output of the tone generator until the output of the amplifier is approximately 2 volts A.C. Now set all of the gains to match the output of all of the channels.

Connect the oscilloscope to any channel (they should all be the same since you tweaked them).

Monitor the output voltage of the power supply, either with your volt meter or by the digital meters on the power supply. If the power supply doesn't have digital meters, use a digital multimeter.

Slowly increase the output of the tone generator while watching the oscilloscope. Increase the level until the top and/or bottom of the sine wave flattens out. Reduce the level until the wave is 'clean' again.

Now see if the power supply voltage has held to the preset value. Reduce the output level of the generator. If the D.C. voltage changed during the test, you must take this into account. A well regulated supply will have held the preset voltage.

Now connect the A.C. voltmeter to the output terminals of one channel. The channel connected to the scope would be a good choice.

Again Increase the level of the generator until just before the amplifier starts to clip. Make note of the voltage reading.

Turn the power supply off.

Quickly disconnect the dummy load of one channel and measure its exact resistance while it is still hot. The value of the resistor will change slightly as it heats up.

Now use the Ohm's law formula, P=E^2/R. If we found that the amplifier drove 35 volts A.C. across the resistor and the resistor had a D.C. resistance of 4.08 ohms, the amplifier produced 300.25 watts RMS.

P=35^2/4.08

P=1225/4.08

P=300.25 watts RMS

NOTE:

1.If the D.C. power supply does not hold its preset voltage, the power output will be lower than the amplifier is capable.

2.This test cannot be done using speakers in place of the dummy loads. The speakers will give you a false high reading at most frequencies.

REFERENCE:

http://www.bcae1.com/measpwr.htm

 
I've used a pair of 10" subwoofers that can handle 600 watts RMS as my 4 ohm load test. The only issue is my power supply only provides 55 amps.

I was going to wire my 12" L5 in series to perform an 8 ohm mono test of my old school linear powers, but, I sold that sub already and I am waiting for the buyer to come and get it. I would hate to blow a sub that someone else already paid for.

 
This test cannot be done using speakers in place of the dummy loads. The speakers will give you a false high reading at most frequencies.

so by that statement if you use a sub it will give you higher readings? lol!! but you use subs lol!! o well to each there own!! i plan to post pics and what not and i plan to do this next week after i tlk to my instructor

 
Autosound 2000 used to do this for free. Not sure if they still do. Shipping is the only cost.

It would be an all out professional test report. FR, THD+N, Efficiency etc.

I have the ph no if you're interested.

 
Autosound 2000 used to do this for free. Not sure if they still do. Shipping is the only cost.It would be an all out professional test report. FR, THD+N, Efficiency etc.

I have the ph no if you're interested.
hey man i am interested!! p/m the number when you can! thanks!

what i have in mind is to do my own bench then send it to the pro's and see if i was even close!! lol!

 
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