ABX funny

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

**** those tests, those guys are just a bunch of blow hards themselves. Real world application is what you make of it. Not to take the opinions of those know it alls.
My only little beef with you was saying that I fell for the placebo effect when in fact I hadn't. Other than that I have no problem with your opinion as it also holds true.

Can ABX tests throw false positives? Yes, but overall they're are usually on target. EVERY source should be taken with a grain of salt. Thats why I said in my original post that its best to read and disect all sources including your own findings in order to make an educated choice.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Can ABX tests throw false positives? Yes, but overall they're are usually on target. EVERY source should be taken with a grain of salt. Thats why I said in my original post that its best to read and disect all sources including your own findings in order to make an educated choice.

Agreed.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

One only need listen to a few properly set up systems to be able to hear differences. You need to be open minded as well. Whether you are willing to be open minded, that's up to you.

Are there diminishing returns? Of course, but the level that these set in at will be different for everyone.

Are cables a huge rip-off? Of course; there are higher qualities for sure, as well as small companies that need a lot of margin to stay in business..... but it has been shown that more $$ does not always improve a given system.

 

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

If you have never taken a psychology class class and learned basic principles for conducting a correlation study then you need to shut up. Maybe their tests did result in a positive correlation but does it mean anything......NO.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Well, basic point is ABX = BS.

People hear what they want to hear, if you believe something doesn't make a difference than it won't if you believe it will than it will. It's not "placebo" because it does make a difference it's your mind if you want to notice that difference or not. Cables DO sound different, that different sound may be better it may be worse. Same thing with any electronic component, Amp, Receiver, Processor, CD player, DVD Player, Turn Table, ETC ETC...

You may think that I am an Elite attitude person (I do own some Pioneer Elite stuff haha) but audio is subjective. But, there are some basic rights and wrongs. And, the thing that I get angered about is when people throw out blanket statements about stuff. I know what I like, and so I recommend it. But, I don't push information down people's throats saying I'm right because I have a mastery of google. Not everyone needs a big DIY system. I believe that if I had enough time to put together my own DIY it would be better than anything else, but I have a busy life and don't have time to do that. So, I buy things that have had the engineering put into them that I do not have the time or tools to do.

That is all.....

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

P.S. B&W_EE is a poopy head.

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

People don't understand what ABX can do for you.

For someone interested in audio whether newbie or advanced, it will show

you how to prioritize the items in your audio system and allow you to

put the big dollars where it counts. ABX removes audio myths and educates

a person properly. ABX teaches you where the priorities of audio are.

You can can choose to ignore it if you want, nobody cares. People who want

to expand their knowledge will take a look at it.

* ABX will show you that good low cost cables do the job as well as esoteric cables.

* ABX will show you that the signal path of electronics doesn't need to minimalist in design.

* ABX shows you how to choose power amplification.

* ABX shows you how important a speaker plays in audio reproduction.

the list goes on ... etc...

People fear ABX because they don't want to learn the truth about audio,

they are very happy in the world of fantasy playing World of Warcraft

killing mobs with their uber character.

I don't care if you love your $5000 CD player or $50k tube amp, feel free to

enjoy it, but there are plenty of people in the world who really want to

know what is going on. There is no magic in audio, it's all simple science

and no manufacturer is immune to those laws of engineering product.

If you love being anti-ABX, then this forum is sweet for you to participate in.

Birds of the same feather flock together.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=86

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif how very noble of you thy....

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

So, I buy things that have had the engineering put into them that I do not have the time or tools to do.

Especially those speakers.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif I'm not sure when but I have heard enough of those to know that B&W are my next speakers. Probably the 600 series.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Especially those speakers.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif I'm not sure when but I have heard enough of those to know that B&W are my next speakers. Probably the 600 series.

Try to swing the money up to the CM series... It's a nice blend between normal speaker construction and the 700 series....

Very clear and translucent...

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

P.S. B&W_EE is a poopy head.

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[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Try to swing the money up to the CM series... It's a nice blend between normal speaker construction and the 700 series....
Very clear and translucent...

They don't look too bad but I don't think I would like front firing surrounds. But who says I have to go with that series surrounds.??

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

If you have never taken a psychology class class and learned basic principles for conducting a correlation study then you need to shut up. Maybe their tests did result in a positive correlation but does it mean anything......NO.

Who the **** hasn't taken a Psych class or 2?

Even if I hadn't, it has no bearing on whether my oppinions and observations are valid.

Go diddle yourself.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

This is the setup I was wanting to go with.

Sub.

http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model%20ASW%20650

Surrounds

http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/MODEL%20DS6%20S3

Mains

http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model%20DM602%20S3

Center

http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model%20LCR600%20S3

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Good stuff, but I would still need my IB sub //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif