AB XFL / AB HD / Fi BL .. Best daily preformer on 2k in a small box?

[cdc351jeferson 10+ year member]

if this is true dustin then why are they not being used in the lanes,in 6 years of competing i've never seen either of these subs used

to many anti dc people who have never ran them

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

to many anti dc people who have never ran them

true ,true

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

if this is true dustin then why are they not being used in the lanes,in 6 years of competing i've never seen either of these subs used

Why is which company not used? I have seen a ton of various companies used in SPL? I don't see what you are point at...SSA is used a lot now and has been gaining more and more ground in the lanes. Fi most don't use the BL but I have seen several in the lanes.

I'm not sure what you are getting at to be honest, since when did anything SPL become relevant once you drive out of the lane? Don't get me wrong, I love SPL but to toss around any claim to fame by using the lanes is nothing special. Any sub can be loud if the builder builds around the application and product.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

to many anti dc people who have never ran them

I have ran DC several times myself and installed it several times over. I'm not saying they are a bad sub by any means if that how you are taking it. However, I am saying from what I have saw I was not all that excited from them, just another sub to me.

I still don't understand why if anyone posts up anything about product someone will claim .."well you never ran it" just because we do not agree on the product and how it performs.... This is based on "sound" and "preferences". This would mean that most of us will never agree on anything other then.... "we all like bass"...

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

Why is which company not used? I have seen a ton of various companies used in SPL? I don't see what you are point at...SSA is used a lot now and has been gaining more and more ground in the lanes. Fi most don't use the BL but I have seen several in the lanes.
I'm not sure what you are getting at to be honest, since when did anything SPL become relevant once you drive out of the lane? Don't get me wrong, I love SPL but to toss around any claim to fame by using the lanes is nothing special. Any sub can be loud if the builder builds around the application and product.

i know who builds ssa and the hdc as you know ,the only fi subs i've seen in the lanes are the btl,just curious why the hdc and ssa subs aren't seen in the lanes ,at least here if they are so loud .just out of curiosity .

 

[cdc351jeferson 10+ year member]

I have ran DC several times myself and installed it several times over. I'm not saying they are a bad sub by any means if that how you are taking it. However, I am saying from what I have saw I was not all that excited from them, just another sub to me.
I still don't understand why if anyone posts up anything about product someone will claim .."well you never ran it" just because we do not agree on the product and how it performs.... This is based on "sound" and "preferences". This would mean that most of us will never agree on anything other then.... "we all like bass"...

just funny you recommended a sub like the FI that has tinsel problems and you have to pay for all these cooling upgrades and coil upgrades when for example a dc xl you get them all included

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='mylows10']i know who builds ssa and the hdc as you know ,the only fi subs i've seen in the lanes are the btl,just curious why the hdc and ssa subs aren't seen in the lanes ,at least here if they are so loud .just out of curiosity .[/QUOTE]

I think you should get out a tad more to be honest. They are both used, and a lot.

I'm not sure why it matters who built what..if it works it works. The same two build houses builds all of AQ and all of AB..no surprise there. We know who oems for SSA.


@denim



[quote name='cdc351jeferson']just funny you recommended a sub like the FI that has tinsel problems and you have to pay for all these cooling upgrades and coil upgrades when for example a dc xl you get them all included[/QUOTE]

While I have read about those complaints I have never seen it happen first hand. You have your band loyalty and will find a fault no matter how I answer these questions. Perhaps the better answer would be to attack the issues DC has had over the year? However, we both know a large bulk of any issue from most companies are do to user error and/or abuse.

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

just funny you recommended a sub like the FI that has tinsel problems and you have to pay for all these cooling upgrades and coil upgrades when for example a dc xl you get them all included

cooling is free basically now just pay for direct leads but i prefer the fi q

12″ Platform 2 Subwoofer | PSI Car Audio

great custom made subs, one of the origional guys at re audio when re audio was good

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='pro-rabbit']I think you should get out a tad more to be honest. They are both used, and a lot.


@denim





While I have read about those complaints I have never seen it happen first hand. You have your band loyalty and will find a fault no matter how I answer these questions. Perhaps the better answer would be to attack the issues DC has had over the year? However, we both know a large bulk of any issue from most companies are do to user error and/or abuse.[/QUOTE]

i do get to shows quite a bit ,but noone out here uses ssa subs or audioque subs in competition ,the do use the fi btl ,ascendant ,dc,soundstream xxx and a few others . maybe if i come back to ok yo visit again next year i'll have to hit you up to see if there are any shows that weekend .i do know this ,in you neck of the woods its pretty much dd and aq for most any spl car or truck .

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

i do get to shows quite a bit ,but noone out here uses ssa subs or audioque subs in competition ,the do use the fi btl ,ascendant ,dc,soundstream xxx and a few others . maybe if i come back to ok yo visit again next year i'll have to hit you up to see if there are any shows that weekend .i do know this ,in you neck of the woods its pretty much dd and aq for most any spl car or truck .

Actually DD and AQ are not as dominate as they used to be. Right now it is an odd mix of various internet based products along with AB products and some RD.

However, two guys are die hard AQ and another two are die hard DD...and they all 4 show up to every show so it would seem they are in more cars then they actually lol

I can't say much, we are building Tony's FJ with all AQ right now.....will likely be something different by the end of the season though.

SSA is more east coast but they have some hella loud guys out that way including some title holders currently.

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/index.php/team/sbn-2012.html

 

[mat3833 10+ year member]

sigh, this reminds me of a "does a V8 sound better than an I4 or V6 or I6" thread i once read.....

Matt

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Wait, we don't have guys in the SPL lanes? When did that stop happening? Those world records and constantly growing TeamSSAudio has had me totally fooled all this time. How could I be so gullible.

 

But seriously, the Fi BL is an excellent SPL bargain. I have not personally tested any recent AB speakers to report back on them.

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

I have business reasons to hate dc after being undercut to locals by them then wanting me to pay a buy in to get territory restrictions I was a dealer before the buy in and they fucked me over why pay them money to do it. ****** business and ****** practices if you ask me.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

I have business reasons to hate dc after being undercut to locals by them then wanting me to pay a buy in to get territory restrictions I was a dealer before the buy in and they fucked me over why pay them money to do it. ****** business and ****** practices if you ask me.

Several companies do this. Any company that has a rep selling on forums will not get my business anymore, I'm sure this trend will continue with companies that allow such things to happen.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

I have business reasons to hate dc after being undercut to locals by them then wanting me to pay a buy in to get territory restrictions I was a dealer before the buy in and they fucked me over why pay them money to do it. ****** business and ****** practices if you ask me.

i understand ,digital designs did this to me ,but rusty and the crew has been straight up with me so far .