99 expedition build idea help

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

I have had a lot of systems over the years that I pieced together second had form kids that didn’t know what they were trying to sell. I like most used to be only about the boom but I now want a SQL set up. I have been reading on this site for a lil more than 3 years and there is a lot of good info. I kno that first hand experience is the best but I don’t have the option of going to a shop and hearing or playing with products. All the places around me have like JL, Rockford, Alpine and larger box companies. I am a very handy person I can make boxes or kicks and mess with fiberglass so all kinds of fab is ok with me I have no problem cutting up my car as long as It looks good in the end.

SO here is the breakdown of what im looking to do. First I have a 99 ford expy. I first want to replace my front stage. I want a good set of comps with crossovers and tweets. Maybe even an 8 in their as well. I don’t mind buying different brands to mix and match in search of the best SQL in my price range. Of about 200-250$ not including amp. Im not experienced enough to run ( I think its called active) so I will need crossovers unless I pay a shop to tune or teach me how to tune properly.

Next is the rear doors. I kno that most people just use it as rear fill or even eliminate the speakers all together. But I am always running with people in the back so I would really like the music to be just as enjoyable for the rear passengers as the front so I have the same budget as the front stage. It doesn’t have to be all the same equipment as the front so I am open to all ideas.

Next is an amp/ amps to run the front and rear. This is the part that I get confused so I will need a lil more explanation if you say I could get one amp and just wire it all a cretin crazy way. Im not sure if I can use one amp or if I have to have 2 so I don’t have an exact budget set for this but I want to keep I reasonable but good SQ

After the front and rear is done I will sound deaden and sound block. Not just from vibrations but road noise as well. I want my car to sound like im in a cadi. So input on this is accepted as well or where I can get the best materials for the best cost.

I think I am looking for 2 15s but will probably buy them one at a time unless I have more money at that time. I have an expedition so space really isn’t an issue as long as I can see out the back. So unless im talked out of it I want some really efficient SQL subs and box. I will have someone on this forum design the box for me but I will build. Probably 200-300$ a sub

The amp for the subs would be next. As for the other amp I don’t have a specific budget but just reasonable and for SQ.

I will do the big three and an upgraded batt before I buy anything else. Even a second batt before I buy the subs if needed. If I don’t have to spend 300-400$ on a upgraded alt I don’t want to but I really want a quality system so if I have to I have to. If you read my whole post you’re a better man than I. im not going to buy it all at once so im not in a huge rush and I will put in the hours to do it right.

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[splwj47 10+ year member]

for comps you can look into hybrid audio, cdt, rainbow. incriminator audio, and b2 audio make a nice set of comps for cheap but i like the ia set a little better since they have silk dome tweets. for your subs what kind of power do you want to run? and i read you whole post but not sure if i missed it or not but i dont recall a budget for the sub amp. once we figure out what kinda power you want to run for you subs we can suggest you some woofers. for you rear fill i would just run some coaxials. and for an amp for the door speakers you will need a 4 channel amp since you are going to run passive.

 

[biggg72]

i am definitely interested in what you come up with as i have a 98. i came across realm speakers 2 years ago and they have sounded just as or better than anyone i come in contact with. i can crank it up to say 30 and it sounds like its on 15 with the quality. ive recently decided to change a few things and try a mid bass sound to see if i like it - still deciding. i just replaced my 5x7 realms with ab 5.25's and for a smaller speaker they are beast. i have also recently fell in love with super tweeters in which i had no experience with before, so im trying to figure out a setup for these as they get very loud.

my subs i will probally get beat up on but these pioneer ts-w3002's are very sq oriented and sound great low or loud. i built a 5 cu box for them with 2 - 3" ports tuned to 33hz. i am however considering doing another box with different subs more of a spl sound.

i would also suggest rewiring your expo to the doors. i did using 12ga and what a difference it makes. if i can help out at all let me know. i wish you were closer so could take advantage of your fabrication skills. also its a big 4 not three - there is another wire under the passenger side front door. google big ford expedition and click on the f-150 link.

 

[quackhead 10+ year member]

I have had a lot of systems over the years that I pieced together second had form kids that didn’t know what they were trying to sell. I like most used to be only about the boom but I now want a SQL set up. I have been reading on this site for a lil more than 3 years and there is a lot of good info. I kno that first hand experience is the best but I don’t have the option of going to a shop and hearing or playing with products. All the places around me have like JL, Rockford, Alpine and larger box companies. I am a very handy person I can make boxes or kicks and mess with fiberglass so all kinds of fab is ok with me I have no problem cutting up my car as long as It looks good in the end. SO here is the breakdown of what im looking to do. First I have a 99 ford expy. I first want to replace my front stage. I want a good set of comps with crossovers and tweets. Maybe even an 8 in their as well. I don’t mind buying different brands to mix and match in search of the best SQL in my price range. Of about 200-250$ not including amp. Im not experienced enough to run ( I think its called active) so I will need crossovers unless I pay a shop to tune or teach me how to tune properly.

Next is the rear doors. I kno that most people just use it as rear fill or even eliminate the speakers all together. But I am always running with people in the back so I would really like the music to be just as enjoyable for the rear passengers as the front so I have the same budget as the front stage. It doesn’t have to be all the same equipment as the front so I am open to all ideas.

Next is an amp/ amps to run the front and rear. This is the part that I get confused so I will need a lil more explanation if you say I could get one amp and just wire it all a cretin crazy way. Im not sure if I can use one amp or if I have to have 2 so I don’t have an exact budget set for this but I want to keep I reasonable but good SQ

After the front and rear is done I will sound deaden and sound block. Not just from vibrations but road noise as well. I want my car to sound like im in a cadi. So input on this is accepted as well or where I can get the best materials for the best cost.

I think I am looking for 2 15s but will probably buy them one at a time unless I have more money at that time. I have an expedition so space really isn’t an issue as long as I can see out the back. So unless im talked out of it I want some really efficient SQL subs and box. I will have someone on this forum design the box for me but I will build. Probably 200-300$ a sub

The amp for the subs would be next. As for the other amp I don’t have a specific budget but just reasonable and for SQ.

I will do the big three and an upgraded batt before I buy anything else. Even a second batt before I buy the subs if needed. If I don’t have to spend 300-400$ on a upgraded alt I don’t want to but I really want a quality system so if I have to I have to. If you read my whole post you’re a better man than I. im not going to buy it all at once so im not in a huge rush and I will put in the hours to do it right.

I'd look into a good set of comps like the Image Dynamics CTX65CS and maybe an extra midbass driver for the front and a set of good coaxes like the Image Dynamics CTX65 for the rear doors. I'd do a good 4 ch class A/B on the mid/highs like the AQ 120.4. For the sub stage, I'd recommend 2 15's like the GCON with D4 coils on the B2 Quota for a solid 1400 watts at 1ohm.

AQ 120.4

Image Dynamics CTX65CS 6.5"

Image Dynamics CTX65 6.5"

GCON-15 Sound Solutions Audio 15" 750W GCON Series Subwoofer - SSA STORE

B2 Audio Quota Amplifier - 1200 @ 1 Ohm

 

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

well for the subs i would spend 200-300 per sub but i would probably have to buy one at a time so im not sure the power of the amp but what ever would run both subs. i don't want to buy an amp for one sub then in like 2 months have to buy a different amp for both subs. But with what ever subs i do end up getting i was thinking of something with high efficiency and large box cuz doesn't that mean i don't have to be high power? Im not sure if that is a good type of combo tho for SQL... and i really don't have a set budget in mind for the amp. i never bought anything new or for very much. i always got stuff from kids that would sell like kicker 1000.1 or 750.1 for like 60$ i even got a jl 1000.1 for like 100$ once. i don't want to spend a bunch on amps but i am willing to spend more time saving to get a good amp... the hybrid audio i was kinda interested in but when ever i find a place selling them its like 300- 400. i saw in a post the other night that someone recommend them n said they can be found nib for 200. but he didn't say where thanks for the infor i will have to look into the suggestions you gave

 

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

also when you say rewire to the doors do you mean the speaker wires in the doors? when i got the car it came with a system and the doors are wired with aftermarket wire all the way to the amp but not sure of the gauge

 

[biggg72]

also when you say rewire to the doors do you mean the speaker wires in the doors? when i got the car it came with a system and the doors are wired with aftermarket wire all the way to the amp but not sure of the gauge

yes, your good then.

 

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

also my doors are very large and deep. from the one time i did remove the panel to see what speakers i had it looked really empty. so im thinking of doing sealed or vented boxes in the doors. i have been doing a lil reading on what i could find out about it and it doesn't seem like to many people have done it or even like the idea. i know the speakers are designed for the so called ib effect of a sealed door. but like i said i like fab work so im willing to destroy my door but im just wondering if anyone knows anyone who has done it that i could get info from.

 

[pbnj22 10+ year member]

I got a 00 explorer... I am slowly doing an install as well.. Im looking forward to head about your fab work with the doors as I am thinking about doing the same.. Im just nto as experienced as you lol

 

[splwj47 10+ year member]

well for the subs i would spend 200-300 per sub but i would probably have to buy one at a time so im not sure the power of the amp but what ever would run both subs. i don't want to buy an amp for one sub then in like 2 months have to buy a different amp for both subs. But with what ever subs i do end up getting i was thinking of something with high efficiency and large box cuz doesn't that mean i don't have to be high power? Im not sure if that is a good type of combo tho for SQL... and i really don't have a set budget in mind for the amp. i never bought anything new or for very much. i always got stuff from kids that would sell like kicker 1000.1 or 750.1 for like 60$ i even got a jl 1000.1 for like 100$ once. i don't want to spend a bunch on amps but i am willing to spend more time saving to get a good amp... the hybrid audio i was kinda interested in but when ever i find a place selling them its like 300- 400. i saw in a post the other night that someone recommend them n said they can be found nib for 200. but he didn't say where thanks for the infor i will have to look into the suggestions you gave

well the setup quakhead recomended for you would probably be right up your alley. i would look into the hat imagine comps, very good budget comps. hard to beat for the money.

 

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

well the setup quakhead recomended for you would probably be right up your alley. i would look into the hat imagine comps, very good budget comps. hard to beat for the money.

where can i get them for the best price? is there a vender here? i have looked in to that set before i was definitely interested but i did a quick search and found them for 300$ and i think i could get them for way better price

 

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

I got a 00 explorer... I am slowly doing an install as well.. Im looking forward to head about your fab work with the doors as I am thinking about doing the same.. Im just nto as experienced as you lol

well work is a lil slow for me right now so i will have a lot of time to work on the expy but not much cash so it will be a slow process. but i will definitely try to remember to take pics

 

[splwj47 10+ year member]

where can i get them for the best price? is there a vender here? i have looked in to that set before i was definitely interested but i did a quick search and found them for 300$ and i think i could get them for way better price

go to there website, they probably have a dealer locator and find the nearest dealer to you. dealers usually offer you the best prices. if not start a thread asking where is the best place to buy them. i haved never looked into them personally so i couldnt tell you where is the best price to buy them.

 

[lunchboxlust 10+ year member]

I found someone selling 4 8w3v2-d4 for 60$ at work but don't have time to research so what u think

 

[quackhead 10+ year member]

well for the subs i would spend 200-300 per sub but i would probably have to buy one at a time so im not sure the power of the amp but what ever would run both subs. i don't want to buy an amp for one sub then in like 2 months have to buy a different amp for both subs. But with what ever subs i do end up getting i was thinking of something with high efficiency and large box cuz doesn't that mean i don't have to be high power? Im not sure if that is a good type of combo tho for SQL... and i really don't have a set budget in mind for the amp. i never bought anything new or for very much. i always got stuff from kids that would sell like kicker 1000.1 or 750.1 for like 60$ i even got a jl 1000.1 for like 100$ once. i don't want to spend a bunch on amps but i am willing to spend more time saving to get a good amp... the hybrid audio i was kinda interested in but when ever i find a place selling them its like 300- 400. i saw in a post the other night that someone recommend them n said they can be found nib for 200. but he didn't say where thanks for the infor i will have to look into the suggestions you gave

That B2 I suggested would deliver 700-800watts to one D4 sub at 2ohms...then a simple matter of adding the other D4 sub later would drop the amp down to 1 ohm for 1400 watts rms.