6.5 woofer: application specific.

[twinkieC405 10+ year member]

Im not completely sure im going to be doing this yet but i'd like to get a good idea of what is availible for if i end up switching my midbass woofers. Im looking for good frequency response, tight and punchy midbass, not boomy. It will possibly be replacing the mid woofers on my DLS 3-way components, due to the fact that they dont have enough punch for me.

-The woofer must be a 6.5 inch.

-Frequency range has to be about 30-800Hz (around there)

-Each sub will get 85watt @ 4ohm

-I only have a certain depth to work with before i'll start having to add speaker rings.

-Lastly there isnt a whole lot of airspace in the "enclosure" due to the fact that its just a stock location in the kick panels, so whatever sub it is, it has to be able to deal with little air space.

The only 3, 6.5 subs/midbasses i've read while searching are the Tang Band's (always a great product), the DD 6.5's and eD's 6.5.

Advice on what would best fit my situation or ideas would be great.

Tia.

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[ItalynStylion 10+ year member]

If you only have 85RMS then the tang bands are the ones you need. I have the EU700's in my rear deck but they are getting 150RMS each //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

 

[twinkieC405 10+ year member]

Im curious as to how a different set of midbass subs will respond and sound in relation to the DLS ones, considering they will be getting the same amount of power.

Someone has to have had a similar experience and can help out.

 

[twinkieC405 10+ year member]

No advice from the caraudio forum, where the experts are supposed to be. come on now guys.

 

[95stroked1500 10+ year member]

how's the installation? good and solid with no cancellations? decent venting?

85w might be the culprit to your problems.

i haven't heard every 6.5 out there. but the DD's, very efficient. 3.25" mounting depth, and they kill everything i have came across so far.

down to 30hz.... good luck. ported would be your friend.

there's also the mpyre 6.5" sub.

 

[ItalynStylion 10+ year member]

^^agreed, with only 85watts you the Tang Bands will destroy anything else but if he had more power I would do something else

 

[Toxic Tuan 10+ year member]

We just did a side to side comparison between an Mpyre vs the Tang Band vs the JL 6w0. The Mpyre smoked the other two. Best 6" subwoofer as of right now.

tuan

 

[dragonrage 10+ year member]

And you pay for that.

 

[95stroked1500 10+ year member]

We just did a side to side comparison between an Mpyre vs the Tang Band vs the JL 6w0. The Mpyre smoked the other two. Best 6" subwoofer as of right now.
tuan

have you used the W6.5LT yet? the dd smokes 2 of the 6w0's as told by one of my aquantences (who owns a shop) who i let borrow mine.

as soon as mpyre releases the mid woofer from the components, i'm going to give it a rip.

 

[dragonrage 10+ year member]

What's the difference between their mid and an Extremis 6.4? Q?

 

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

have you used the W6.5LT yet? the dd smokes 2 of the 6w0's as told by one of my aquantences (who owns a shop) who i let borrow mine.
as soon as mpyre releases the mid woofer from the components, i'm going to give it a rip.

Heresay isn't worth much, especially irrational heresay like that. The W6.5 doesn't come close to outdisplacing the 6w0, and certainly won't outdisplace two of them.

Always question information that seems dubious, even from a shop owner, as quite frequently they don't have any idea what they are talking about either.

 

[95stroked1500 10+ year member]

sorry, i don't jive wit that tunnel vision approach. that's only ONE spec of the many that predict output. and i'm referring soley to a speaker and not box or install.

i surely know there's a good deal non-knowledgable people running shops and working in them. and if i doubted that man's ability, i wouldn't have dropped my speakers off for him to try. if he's talented enough to place in db drag finals, he at least deserves some credit for half a clue of what he's doing.

and why would he slander his own work of the 6w0's vs the DD, when DD isn't even one of his products and the jl was? that's the last thing most shops would ever admit.

 

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

sorry, i don't jive wit that tunnel vision approach. that's only ONE spec of the many that predict output. and i'm referring soley to a speaker and not box or install.
i surely know there's a good deal non-knowledgable people running shops and working in them. and if i doubted that man's ability, i wouldn't have dropped my speakers off for him to try. if he's talented enough to place in db drag finals, he at least deserves some credit for half a clue of what he's doing.

and why would he slander his own work of the 6w0's vs the DD, when DD isn't even one of his products and the jl was? that's the last thing most shops would ever admit.

It means he may know something about bass farting in ported boxes, it doesn't mean he knows anything at all about how linear output works. Judging by his claims, he most certainly does not.

One of the W6.5s doesn't get louder than two 6w0's in a musical application, period. When you eliminate the other variables so all you are really comparing is the drivers, displacement is king.

Just because a woofer farts loud, doesn't mean it's loud for music. That's where a lot of SPL competitors get confused, because they think that SPL competition results are in any way, shape, or form applicable to drivers in musical applications, where we arent measuring an incredidly tiny range of frequencies, and are instead more interested in output in a wide range, say from 10-100Hz.

When you elimiante all other variables and place the drivers in similar alignments, displacement will ALWAYS predict linear output. It's not an opinion or a "tunnel vision" approach, it's just an unavoidable, indisputable fact.

 

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

Im not completely sure im going to be doing this yet but i'd like to get a good idea of what is availible for if i end up switching my midbass woofers. Im looking for good frequency response, tight and punchy midbass, not boomy. It will possibly be replacing the mid woofers on my DLS 3-way components, due to the fact that they dont have enough punch for me.
-The woofer must be a 6.5 inch.

-Frequency range has to be about 30-800Hz (around there)

-Each sub will get 85watt @ 4ohm

-I only have a certain depth to work with before i'll start having to add speaker rings.

-Lastly there isnt a whole lot of airspace in the "enclosure" due to the fact that its just a stock location in the kick panels, so whatever sub it is, it has to be able to deal with little air space.

The only 3, 6.5 subs/midbasses i've read while searching are the Tang Band's (always a great product), the DD 6.5's and eD's 6.5.

Advice on what would best fit my situation or ideas would be great.

Tia.

Personally I'd give the Adire Audio Extremis a shot, it has more linear output than ANY of the above drivers, as well as lower overall distortion, and better low frequency extension.

You don't hear much about them, but they are excellent drivers, and far more advanced in terms of design than any of the aforementioned woofers.

 

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

We just did a side to side comparison between an Mpyre vs the Tang Band vs the JL 6w0. The Mpyre smoked the other two. Best 6" subwoofer as of right now.
tuan

No surprise there at all, far more advanced design. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif