4 12's or.... 2 12's & 2 10's

[cotjones 10+ year member]

no one really uses 3 or 6 10s thats just pointless

thanks, you kinda just proved my point

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

how is that possible? why can't you assume that?

There's too many variables to just say that this will be louder than that because of the power differences.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

There's too many variables to just say that this will be louder than that because of the power differences.

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no no no this isn't what i said either... here is the entire story....

if it is agreed that at 500watts the 13 > than 2 10's at 800 due to the excursion level then it must be true that at every single amount of voltage applied to the driver(s)... will result in the 13 > than the 10's because excursion is directly proportional to the voltage.

 

[diminishedpower 10+ year member]

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if it is agreed that at 500watts the 13 > than 2 10's at 800 due to the excursion level then it must be true that at every single amount of voltage applied to the driver(s)... will result in the 13 > than the 10's because excursion is directly proportional to the voltage.

Quit sayin voltage please, you mean watts or power, power is not equal to voltage. My engineering education wants to kill you

P.S. before ya go postal its sarcasm

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

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if it is agreed that at 500watts the 13 > than 2 10's at 800 due to the excursion level then it must be true that at every single amount of voltage applied to the driver(s)... will result in the 13 > than the 10's because excursion is directly proportional to the voltage.

My point is how do you know that at 500 watts the 13" driver will have the excursion capable of overcoming the surface area differences? You don't.

And your physics is a bit rusty, you might want to read up on it a some more.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Quit sayin voltage please, you mean watts or power, power is not equal to voltage. My engineering education wants to kill you
P.S. before ya go postal its sarcasm

i'm not going postal, but when i said voltage i ment it.. excursion isn't directly proportional to watts, its voltage... when you are talking about watts.. about 1/4th the wattage would give you half the excursion... and 1/16th the max watage would give you 1/4 excursion... but it equals out to be the same concept proportionally, its just easier to explain with volts, but for you i'll do an example in watts...

lets see how many watts each driver will take to reach certain excursions...

13:

full excursion@ 500

half excursion@ 125

one forth excursion @ 31.25

2 10s:

full @ 800

half @ 200

one fourth @ 50

remember that at all three levels the 13 is displaceing more air than the 2 10s and *suprize, suprize* using less power

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

My point is how do you know that at 500 watts the 13" driver will have the excursion capable of overcoming the surface area differences? You don't.
And your physics is a bit rusty, you might want to read up on it a some more.

what do you think the xmax is for

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

what do you think the xmax is for

re-read what I said, and then try again please.

 

[diminishedpower 10+ year member]

just cause the sub is rated at 500 watts doesnt mean the sub reaches it's xmax at 500 watts or else you'd be gaining nothing with the people who run 1000 watts to the sub so your guessing on the watts,

And with the voltage, your wrong voltage stays same you never mess with voltage in car audio, you mess with amp draw, you never cut the "volts" by half

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

just cause the sub is rated at 500 watts doesnt mean the sub reaches it's xmax at 500 watts or else you'd be gaining nothing with the people who run 1000 watts to the sub so your guessing on the watts,
And with the voltage, your wrong voltage stays same you never mess with voltage in car audio, you mess with amp draw, you never cut the "volts" by half

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so explain to me how setting a gain with a dmm works? or why output voltages of HU are different...

 

[m4i2k2e2 10+ year member]

hmmm lots of veiwers but no one has anything to say? so let me ask again what is going to be louder? 1 13 or 2 10's?

why are you even asking if you "seem" to know the dam answer? you have 10's and some a 13". why dont you test it out? who in the hell installed your stuff.

 

[diminishedpower 10+ year member]

Dude you were talking about power to subs, all the volts for headunits and amps are to match so HU output volt = amp input volts, those are just for adjustment so you get clean signal. You were talking in relation to sub output which would be volts from bat and that essentially doesnt change you dont ever cut that volt in half.

You'll really make any huge mental leap to try and prove your point. But throwing out a bunch of fancy numbers or talking isn't going to impress or prove anyone.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Dude you were talking about power to subs, all the volts for headunits and amps are to match so HU output volt = amp input volts, those are just for adjustment so you get clean signal. You were talking in relation to sub output which would be volts from bat and that essentially doesnt change you dont ever cut that volt in half.
You'll really make any huge mental leap to try and prove your point. But throwing out a bunch of fancy numbers or talking isn't going to impress or prove anyone.

ok so you are saying that if your car puts out 14.4 v then your amp always puts out 14.4 volts?

 

[diminishedpower 10+ year member]

no, and i know what your saying what your TRYING to get at but volts is the least efficient and azz backward way of thinking about it

 

[diminishedpower 10+ year member]

but anyways I'm out I just got into this thread because i was bored and i knew you had a raging boner to try and prove your superiority over anything so i picked something small to nag about and look you took it and your not even on same argument. Anyways I'm tired and cot just do whatever you want to do, its your system and quite trying to prove yourself all you've proven is that you can get on peoples nerves.