2nd Amendment

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

i don't want this thread to turn political, so let me clarify somethings. i am not interested in anyones comments about gun control or about some other junk about gun control or someones right to own a gun especially since I am on the other side of the fence.

I have never even held a gun but have been interested in learning to shot a gun with accuracy. i would like to be able to shot a rifle and handgun with decent accuracy. as a first time gun buyer/owner what are things that I should be looking at in a gun? what other cost go into owning a gun? i've seen handguns from $200-$1500, i was planning on spending about $800 for a hand gun and $1500 for a rifle.

I would like my wife to be able to do this with me, are there any places that offer training in gun safety and shooting accuracy?

What other things should I be looking into or concerned about?

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[murph 10+ year member]

A local shooting range or military base may offer gun safety and shoot fundamentals. Usually you want to buy something reliable which in this case companies like H&K and Smith and Wesson are top notch. Make sure you clean your guns at least every other time you shoot them and invest in some of your own ear and eye protection.

 

[R34P3R 10+ year member]

A local shooting range or military base may offer gun safety and shoot fundamentals. Usually you want to buy something reliable which in this case companies like H&K and Smith and Wesson are top notch. Make sure you clean your guns at least every other time you shoot them and invest in some of your own ear and eye protection.

This. I would definitely buy something a little higher on the price ladder to get reliability. I know around here when you apply for a concealed carry license, they also go through cleaning, gun safety, and I think a short range session. A local range would also be able to give you some good knowledge on handling and care for a weapon.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

you live in the south you should be able to find a range easy. Buy a ruger 10/22 to practice with. It's cheap, easy to learn on, and later on if you want you can improve it easy.

do not spend that much on your first gun, go cheap learn the basics.

almost any range will have a training course.

 

[kramer_212 10+ year member]

really depends on what kind of style, or caliber you are planning on, as for as handguns go the 1911 style has the most parts available and is one of the most reliable.

as far as rifles go i would look at the Remington 700 once again very popular tons of parts out there also very accurate. (would replace the trigger before loading though)

 

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you live in the south you should be able to find a range easy. Buy a ruger 10/22 to practice with. It's cheap, easy to learn on, and later on if you want you can improve it easy.do not spend that much on your first gun, go cheap learn the basics.

almost any range will have a training course.

i was going to say this great starter gun reliable, and 22 ammo is cheap.

 

[goingdef 10+ year member]

really depends on what kind of style, or caliber you are planning on, as for as handguns go the 1911 style has the most parts available and is one of the most reliable.

as far as rifles go i would look at the Remington 700 once again very popular tons of parts out there also very accurate. (would replace the trigger before loading though)

 

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i was going to say this great starter gun reliable, and 22 ammo is cheap.

A 1911 is NOT a good starter gun it' has to be carried locked and cocked and it has a zero take-up in the trigger, me and a couple of friends shoot on a weekly basis I personally carry a Beretta 92FS INOX Italian model with a full trigger job, wolff ins reduced pull kit, sprinco recoil reducer, crimson trace lg302 laser grips, mecgar 20rnd mag w/147gr pdx-1 rnds. I have fired thousands of rounds, zero ftf fte, my wife carry's a Beretta 84fs cheetah nickel plated all stock except the walnut grips it's had 150+through it no problems same platform as the 92 except the frame mounted safety. We also shoot a taurus slim 9mm good gun light weight couple ftf's and a Bersa thunder .380 it has had numerous ftl ftf and fte so that gun is worthless I would not recommend that brand even though people love it and finally a kimber pro carryII nice gun but very sensitive trigger and I personally don't like the beaver tail safety and single action only other then that it's a great match grade gun but I won't carry it.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

my 1911 can be carried one in the chamber uncocked and they can all be set up to have take up in the trigger. A 92 is da/sa so wouldn't that be less safe then a single action 1911?

 

[kramer_212 10+ year member]

my 1911 can be carried one in the chamber uncocked and they can all be set up to have take up in the trigger. A 92 is da/sa so wouldn't that be less safe then a single action 1911?

im confused to, you can get added safteys on the 1911 easily, if you really need to, personally my favorite handgun is my smith and Wesson m&p 40

 

[goingdef 10+ year member]

my 1911 can be carried one in the chamber uncocked and they can all be set up to have take up in the trigger. A 92 is da/sa so wouldn't that be less safe then a single action 1911?

my point being that my 92 being da/sa I carry it safety off hammer down in the need to defend myself with my left hand while my right is drawing the gun all I will have to do is point and pull the trigger, where as a 1911 is sa only there for hammer down carry means you have a split second to pull and fire to defend your life and you may not have that split second to **** the hammer if your wrestling for the weapon trying to **** it will compromise your grip on the weapon and you may lose your weapon to your attacker, I not downing the 1911 I have thought about dropping as much as $3,800 on one but I just can't get comfortable with the kimber 1911 pro-carryII I have as of yet, I still prefer my Beretta as do many of my shooting partners. BUT THESE ARE PERSONAL OPINIONS I'm not arguing about guns as these are all great weapons for personal defense, it just comes down to what feels best in your hand easy to carry easy to fire and it is 100% reliable!

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

my point being that my 92 being da/sa I carry it safety off hammer down in the need to defend myself with my left hand while my right is drawing the gun all I will have to do is point and pull the trigger, where as a 1911 is sa only there for hammer down carry means you have a split second to pull and fire to defend your life and you may not have that split second to **** the hammer if your wrestling for the weapon trying to **** it will compromise your grip on the weapon and you may lose your weapon to your attacker, I not downing the 1911 I have thought about dropping as much as $3,800 on one but I just can't get comfortable with the kimber 1911 pro-carryII I have as of yet, I still prefer my Beretta as do many of my shooting partners. BUT THESE ARE PERSONAL OPINIONS I'm not arguing about guns as these are all great weapons for personal defense, it just comes down to what feels best in your hand easy to carry easy to fire and it is 100% reliable!

I don't think we are talking about carry guns anyway. I don't even carry a 1911 I carry a ppk/s I just couldn't figure out why you thought the 92 was safer. I will be grabbing a couple m9's here pretty soon, just because I love the boondock saints.

im confused to, you can get added safteys on the 1911 easily, if you really need to, personally my favorite handgun is my smith and Wesson m&p 40

the 1911 already has safety's 3 of them.

 

[goingdef 10+ year member]

wheres the third safety I know my beaver tail activates the the firing pin safety and then there's the thumb activated safety that disconnects the trigger/sear mech. what's the third?

 

[wickedwitt 10+ year member]

You don't want this to be a political thread, but you name it "2nd Amendment?" For handguns, you have already been given many good options. CZ USA is another great company to look into. For rifles, stick with Remington or Winchester

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

I think it's called the swartz safety or something like that.

 

[sam_b03 10+ year member]

Are you wanting self defense gun for the home? If not 22's are a great trainer. They ammo is cheap 555 rounds for $18-$20. You can get a Browning Buckmark piston or a Rugar Mark 3 (in base model form) for $280-310 depending on were you buy it. They are great shooting guns. Guns only go up in price so once you decide to get a bigger caliber gun you can sell it for that you have in it. They aren't too expensive that you might decide that you like it and just add another bigger gun to your collection.

Having not shot much/any even with a self defense gun the our home I would go with a 9mm. The ammo is cheaper so you can afford to shoot it and get familar with it and the recoil is much easier to contol that a .45.

For a rifle I would recommend the above mentioned Rugar 10/22. If you are not interested in a .22 get an AR15. The ammo is cheap and there is plenty of information on the net to help you out with break down and cleaning it. They are a little more complicated than most guns.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

You don't want this to be a political thread, but you name it "2nd Amendment?" For handguns, you have already been given many good options. CZ USA is another great company to look into. For rifles, stick with Remington or Winchester

why?