2 L7 15" vs. 2 SX 15'"

[PepsiFiend69 10+ year member]

alright, ive pretty much narrowed it down to Type R 15's or SX 15's, i may be aquiring an orion 2500d, do you think the type R's can handle this kind of power daily?

i have a stock electical system unfortunately, im looking to do a yellow top and big 3 asap, will i be able to run a 2500 watt amp? my lights dim already with my kicker sx1250.1?

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

Those 2500's draw TONS of current (200+ amps). A stock electrical system will die unless you're blessed with a HUGE alternator.

 

[unbonyr 10+ year member]

yes they can both handle a orion 2500d with ease I would defiently get a yellow/blue top, big 3 and 0 ga powers and ground to say the least.

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

Despite what people say around here too, I wouldn't throw that much power at a type R daily. They can handle it from what some people preach, but I wouldn't trust nearly trippling the rated power for a daily driver, just not practical in my opinion.

The SX or L7's are much more practical if you're dead set on sending 1000+ watts to each on a daily basis. If for no other reason than the fact that the warantee will cover use to 1000 watts vs 500 on the alpines.

With that said, they're all capable drivers that will perform very well given proper enclosures. I've had first hand experience with the L7's and SX's and of the two would chose the SX every time. I've played with the old Type-R's and wasn't impressed, but from what I've read this year's model is a HUGE upgrade so I won't throw my experience with those into the equation since it'd be comparing apples to oranges.

Are you willing to consider any other choices? The ascendant havoc should be something worth looking into, though nobody has experience with them yet. If what Chad says is true, then I see them as a better option. They're about the same price, waranteed to 1500 watts, and if they are - as chad states - louder than the arsenal which is "louder than the avalanche," then they'll outperform the SX and L7 in output most likely (I've matched SX and avalanche head to head in multiple arrangements and they're always VERY close in SPL).

EDIT: Hell, with that said, the arsenal may be an option to look into, though you wouldn't want to throw a 2500d at them. That may actually be nice though, keep your current amp, miss out on upgrading electrical components and hit the sweet spot on some drivers that look extremely promising.

 

[Towncar 10+ year member]

The 06 l7 might be worth a try. Especially considering they are supposed to be able to handle much more power than last years model.

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

If you want a good starting point on the new L7, PM tracy (polecat) on here. Works for Kicker and is very knowledgeable...surprisingly open to suggest other products in situations where they're better fit as well. Good guy.

 

[wgaede 10+ year member]

I've heard both, SX FTW

 

[wgaede 10+ year member]

yes they will kill your current setup and don't underestimate these subs people have got 1 15" type-r to kill 2 15"sx and l7's it's all about the install man If I was you man I would get the type-r's becuase I think they are an all-around better DD and they love power so feed them as much as you can and bump for when you have a killa setup

Get off the typeR nut...

 

[unbonyr 10+ year member]

you can get used sx's and l7's on here for 200 shipped all day and new alpines on ebay for 200 shipped the new l7's on ebay are 300 shipped. So I'm just guessing here since he has listed 3 subs in he 200dollar range I think thats how much he's looking to spend if he wanted one if the new L7's I'm pretty sure he would of stated it. And who ever said a 15" type-r can't handle 1250rms daily shouldn't be saying anything first off there 750rms not 500 thats the 12" and 10" so thats not even doubleing there power. And your saying they will actually see 1250rms which is also a laugh none of those subs will see that with a stock electrical sytem and imp. rise I say any of those subs will most likely see about 1000rms so I say you should think or do your research before feeding this guy bad information

 

[unbonyr 10+ year member]

Get off the typeR nut...

ha aight dude thats why I have never owned any type-r's or used any and to say I've heard both is totally pointless and means nothing. unless you have used both of them in your car with your amp(which hifonics is crap anyways) becuase what a sx sounds like in a galant will not sound close to if it was in a hatchback or suv. So trying to be biased against a sub that you heard in a different install, different car different amp is bascially the most stupidest thing I've ever heard just to let you know

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

Don't question what I was telling him, it's not bad information. I did remember the power handling wrong, you're correct that it's 750 watts. The point of the argument still stands though that I wouldn't throw that much power daily at the Type R, if for no other reason than the warantee issue.

I am in no way questioning the capabilities of the alpines.

Impedence rise and electrical systems put into play, you're correct he won't be getting 2500 watts....however, given the fact that on a stock elec system he's going to kill it and be forced to upgrade, it's not unreasonable to think that in the near future he'll be seeing much closer to that rating than immediately.

How many times have you dealt with the type R? What enclosures have you put it in, running how much power, for what period of time? The only people I've seen putting that much power on the drivers are VERY well informed individuals that know what they're doing, not the average daily listener.

Power handling also depends very heavily on box type and size, the type R in some enclosures may handle it while in others it simply will not.

I was very general in my statement, and said that I personally would not run that daily to a Type-R. I have dealt extensively with the SX, and moderately with the L7's. I find both to be extremely capable drivers that are protected under warantee to a higher power rating than the type R's. For that reason I would go with one of those drivers, and in my case the SX because he'd be able to fit 2 in the amount of space he has (not optimal, but much closer than what the L7's need to purr).

The boner has died for the most part, but I am still sick and tired of people blindly reccomending the type-R. Running twice the rated power through ANY driver on a daily basis is not a great idea....plain and simple.

Also, if you want to get really picky I'd say just run one driver, it's plenty loud, but that's not the question at hand. The question is which driver to run 2 of off a 2500d, and to that I say the SX out of his choices, hands down (though I would consider others including the havoc if it's anything near what it promises).

 

[wgaede 10+ year member]

yes they will kill your current setup and don't underestimate these subs people have got 1 15" type-r to kill 2 15"sx and l7's it's all about the install man If I was you man I would get the type-r's becuase I think they are an all-around better DD and they love power so feed them as much as you can and bump for when you have a killa setup

Where are you getting this comparison from, who are these 'people'?

Have you owned Kicker, RE, and Alpine subs to compare wich is the 'better DD'?

ha aight dude thats why I have never owned any type-r's or used any and to say I've heard both is totally pointless and means nothing. unless you have used both of them in your car with your amp(which hifonics is crap anyways) becuase what a sx sounds like in a galant will not sound close to if it was in a hatchback or suv. So trying to be biased against a sub that you heard in a different install, different car different amp is bascially the most stupidest thing I've ever heard just to let you know

I'm not being biased i just said i've heard L7's and SX's and said what i though would sound better. Have you been in a galant with a 15" SX in the trunk with my "crap" 1605? So don't be biased and judge how it sounds. That is "basically the most stupidest thing I've ever heard just to let you know "

 

[PepsiFiend69 10+ year member]

crap. alright, the response about the 2500d killing my stock electrical system kinda bursted my bubble. i dont really want to put the 550 dollars into a HO alternator just yet, although i am looking to get a yellowtop this week, along with big 3.

would 2 15" type r's do well with 750 rms to each? that's there recomended RMS rating.

thatnks for all the responses

 

[Polecat 5,000+ posts]

CVX 15"....

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

Nice shameless plug polecat, nice //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif j/k

I've been hearing some pretty good things about the potential of those drivers...

With 750 per sub - which for the record I think is more than enough power for a daily driver - you can look at the kickers, the alpines will purr nicely with that much, or well, many other options. You could look at the SE's, or the arsenals (probably what I would try), or so many other choices.