2 incriminator audio lethal injection 12s (new model) or one ssa zcon 15?

[blkvenm97]

I really wanted to go with two sa15s in my 03 svt focus hatchback but I've only got room to do about 6 cubes net with a slot port at 33 hz or I can get close to 7 cubes at 35 hz with a single 10 inch aero. That's using all my space. Will be throwing 2-2.5k RMS at em with electrical to back it up. Even though sundown calls for 3 cubes each and I'm throwing double RMS at them people in my other thread seem to think they won't do well in 6 cubes net with 15 sq inch of port per at 33 hz. So...

Anyways since ive been told this I'm starting to lean towards a couple ia lethal injection 12s. It well be the new 1000 RMS model. I wanna put them in 5 cubes net at 32 hz with 15-16 sq in of port per. They too will be on 2-2.5k with electrical to back it up. Anyone running the new lethal 12? I hear good things....do they move alot of air and get loud/hit lows well? I like them a lot. Another option is a single SSA zcon 15 also in 5 cubes at 32 hz with 15-16 sq in of port per as well. How would these setups compare? Pros and cons? It will also be running off 2-2.5k. 12s have the cone advantage and decent db rating of 86.4 and xmax of 23 mm but the zcon 15 has an xmax of 29 mm and spl of over 93 so it seems that would more than make up for the slight cone disadvantage right? How would the setups compare? Which would get louder? Sound better? Move more air? I listen to 75-80% rap when I am jamming music in the car but I also like to listen to rock hard rock and classic rock so I'd like it to sound good on that as well but ibreally wanna get loud and hit them lows good.

Another option is simply go with the sa12s in around 4 cubes at 32 hz....same power. This would be the least expensive option but how would it compare performance wise? My current setup is two p3 12s in 4 cubes at 35 hz on a t1000-1bdcp. My next amp is going to be an saz2500 or bc2k or the new scv2000 from sundown....a quality amp in the 2-2.5k range. I'm in the process of trying to land an saz2500. I want my next setup to be a noticable amount louder and hit the lows better and just sound better overall and I believe any of the mentioned setups will achieve this I just need help weighing out my options from people who know....preferably people who have ran the same or similar setups. Thanks in advance!

Michael

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[Slobalt]

I've had my zcon for maybe 6 months now and it kills the lows. I would not buy it if u are only going to put 2k on it, yes it'll run and sound good but it'll beg for more. Land that saz2500 and I would run it at half an ohm on a zcon without a worry. I do feel that the zcon doesn't hit the "higher" frequencys as well but I think that is largely due to my box as of right now. I've never had any of the other subs but they're all good choices I've thought about running all of them at some point. Honestly tho if u don't have at least the rms rating of the zcon I wouldn't recommend it, get the xcon instead.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

In regards to louder and sound better, that is extremely install dependent. The LI's have the potential to be louder on the same power due to the swept cone area advantage, but a single Zcon can still have tremendous output.

 

Side note, the Zcon doesn't require gobs of power, as it performs quite well on far less than rated. It will take a lot more than rated power and will still sound great.

 

So in the end, so much of it will rely on the enclosure and both enclosures look to be great directions for both options.

 

[blkvenm97]

Thanks for the replies. I figured with the high SPL rating it could get pretty loud even without gobs of power. I'll at least have the RMS on it if not more depending on which direction I go. I've looked everywhere for vids of people running the newer ia lethal 12s on 2kw or so and can't find any vids of the newer ones. I saw a couple vids of the older model and they seemed like they jammed hard. IA recommends 1.8-2.5 cubes each so I figure just giving them RMS or a little more I'm going to try to go 5 cubes at 32 hz. Anyone around here running the new lethals? I've seen those zcons get nasty even on rated power too on vids

 

[blkvenm97]

BTW slobalt what kinda enclosure is your zcon in? Like tuning and cubes etc