15" SQ recomendations

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Everyone thinks their SQ preference is right, and thus "SQ", as seen by many responses even within this thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif (no offense anyone) IMO it would be best if you better determine what it is you feel your system is lacking. To just say you want better SQ really tells us nothing, unless you were running Thumps in a pre-fab bandpass box where the answer would be obvious. Here, the 'problem' is not obvious. It could be you need a different driver, it could be you simply need a different box type or alignment. You can get as drastic (or more) a change in the sound characterisitcs of your subsystem by changing the box type and/or alignment as you can simply switching brands of drivers. That's not to say every sub can be made to sound how you want, certain charaterisitcs of each sub give it advantages and disadvantages in many areas. The IDQ for example, which audiolife obviously feels is about the best of the best as far as SQ goes... yes they are great (I personally own some IDQ's and will likely never sell them), but no they are not the end-all to SQ subs either. They are smooth, they are tight, they are accurate, but Ive definitely heard subs with better low-end extension. Some people prefer their sound to a sub with more bottom end, some dont. Who is right. I love IDQ's and their abilities, but I also love Brahma's XXX's W7's and Avalanches which invariably have greater low end extension (more linear output ability for one reason).

Find out what YOU want out of your substage, then determine which subwoofer and enclosure size/type will fill that need best while remaining within your budget. If you follow those steps, you will end up with a very satisfying sub system. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

i wish they had a 15inch IDMAX

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

i wish they had a 15inch IDMAX

Supposedly it was in the works. But, I haven't heard even a rumor about a 15" version in quite a while now, so maybe that's a dead plan.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

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[justsayk 10+ year member]

...but Ive definitely heard subs with better low-end extension...

Low-end extension is what I feel is missing from the Ti's. Do I need a "super-woofer" to achieve this, or should I just try a larger sealed box first?

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

x3 on the idq

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

Everyone thinks their SQ preference is right, and thus "SQ", as seen by many responses even within this thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif (no offense anyone) IMO it would be best if you better determine what it is you feel your system is lacking. To just say you want better SQ really tells us nothing, unless you were running Thumps in a pre-fab bandpass box where the answer would be obvious. Here, the 'problem' is not obvious. It could be you need a different driver, it could be you simply need a different box type or alignment. You can get as drastic (or more) a change in the sound characterisitcs of your subsystem by changing the box type and/or alignment as you can simply switching brands of drivers. That's not to say every sub can be made to sound how you want, certain charaterisitcs of each sub give it advantages and disadvantages in many areas. The IDQ for example, which audiolife obviously feels is about the best of the best as far as SQ goes... yes they are great (I personally own some IDQ's and will likely never sell them), but no they are not the end-all to SQ subs either. They are smooth, they are tight, they are accurate, but Ive definitely heard subs with better low-end extension. Some people prefer their sound to a sub with more bottom end, some dont. Who is right. I love IDQ's and their abilities, but I also love Brahma's XXX's W7's and Avalanches which invariably have greater low end extension (more linear output ability for one reason).
Find out what YOU want out of your substage, then determine which subwoofer and enclosure size/type will fill that need best while remaining within your budget. If you follow those steps, you will end up with a very satisfying sub system. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

He already told us what he wants in his substage, more low end extension. No one is saying they are right, he asked us for recommendations... and thats what we are giving.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Supposedly it was in the works.

Yeah....since 1999 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Low-end extension is what I feel is missing from the Ti's. Do I need a "super-woofer" to achieve this, or should I just try a larger sealed box first?

Forgive me if you already said this, but is your current box sealed? If so, assuming its not already an overly large box for that sub, yes Id say trying a larger box before swapping speakers would be the prudent choice, especially if you are otherwise happy with the PG's performance. Model some up in WinISD to see what alignment your box is, and what you could possibly try going with for improved low end response.

Hundreth, dont take my comments too personal, they weren't meant that way.

 

[justsayk 10+ year member]

They are sealed and already on the large side of what PG reccomends. But that's still less than 2.0 cubes per

 

[Starky 10+ year member]

My bad, I forgot he was looking for a 15 only

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

the idmax good LFE anyways.

atlas's arent bad.

brahmaaaaa

 

[hiloracerboy84 10+ year member]

i'd say go with an avalanche. i was searching for sub that'd get nice and loud on the really low stuff, and decided to go with an ava 15. not much to say other than im impressed and very happy with my decision. with a low fs and high vas, you can have some pretty serious lows while keeping your gains down as you said u liked. ive tried both ported and sealed with mine and would recommend 3.3@28hz to get those lows out nice n loud or if u prefer sealed, 4 cubes. either way is fine, and the box will be about the same size. the choice is yours but id highly recommend searching for a used ava.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

15" Ia Li??

 

[justsayk 10+ year member]

15" Ia Li??

I didn't think that was generally thought of as a sealed box SQ woof.