15 inch type R. 3.5 cubes at 35 hz

[Eat Italian 10+ year member]

So if the resonant frequency of someone's car is 65 hz, they should tune to that? Yeah, that'll work out GREAT for a daily driver enclosure. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
3.5 cubes tuned to 35 hz will work very well. That's what I would recommend to you as well.

I said build/tune it around the resonant frequency of the car (check my original post), tuning it exactly to the resonant frequency for a DD obviously will not be a terrific idea. However for SPL only, yeah tune it exactly to that if you want to have it at the loudest possible point. For daily driving obviously not, who wants a ****ing enclosure tuned to 65hz

Clearly, It's alot more complicated that I may have described it as but I tried to give a basic idea for those who didn't understand. For those who did, my guess was they understood the concept already and they wouldn't need to have a more detailed explanation on the specifics of it (ie. if your car was naturally at 100hz well then would you just tune the box exactly to 100hz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif)

So again OoMesKoO, Eat a Dick.

 

[PSturmer 10+ year member]

I said build/tune it around the resonant frequency of the car (check my original post), tuning it exactly to the resonant frequency for a DD obviously will not be a terrific idea. However for SPL only, yeah tune it exactly to that if you want to have it at the loudest possible point. For daily driving obviously not, who wants a ****ing enclosure tuned to 65hz
Clearly, It's alot more complicated that I may have described it as but I tried to give a basic idea for those who didn't understand. For those who did, my guess was they understood the concept already and they wouldn't need to have a more detailed explanation on the specifics of it (ie. if your car was naturally at 100hz well then would you just tune the box exactly to 100hz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif)

So again OoMesKoO, Eat a Dick.

your wrong. you dont tune at exactly the cars resonant freq. so just stop talking.

 

[PSturmer 10+ year member]

will this box size work for a 15 inch type R? should it be smaller/tuned lower??

and if you havent got power yet. dont go anymore than 2k.

 

[Eat Italian 10+ year member]

your wrong. you dont tune at exactly the cars resonant freq. so just stop talking.

you need glasses. i'm pretty sure it was in bold that time.

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

you need glasses. i'm pretty sure it was in bold that time.

You must be a moron for not realizing you typed this word for word:

However for SPL only, yeah tune it exactly to that if you want to have it at the loudest possible point.

That is incorrect. Your sub/enclosure combo will almost always peak (anechoic) higher than tuning. Tuning the enclosure to the exact point at which your cabin resonates will not give you the exact result you're looking for... at least not to it's full potential.

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

Yeh its what i had for my 15R...well 3.5@32hz and than a lil lower when i lengthed the tubes and it was nutsss

I had 2000(rated) on mine and it was lovely....good luck

Pm me for some vids

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

I said build/tune it around the resonant frequency of the car (check my original post), tuning it exactly to the resonant frequency for a DD obviously will not be a terrific idea. However for SPL only, yeah tune it exactly to that if you want to have it at the loudest possible point. For daily driving obviously not, who wants a ****ing enclosure tuned to 65hz
Clearly, It's alot more complicated that I may have described it as but I tried to give a basic idea for those who didn't understand. For those who did, my guess was they understood the concept already and they wouldn't need to have a more detailed explanation on the specifics of it (ie. if your car was naturally at 100hz well then would you just tune the box exactly to 100hz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif)

So again OoMesKoO, Eat a Dick.

Soooo, ummmm, 35 hz (which is widely known as a good "daily driving" tuning frequency) is "around" the 65 hz resonant frequency?

Just stop posting as you are just digging yourself down deeper and deeper into complete nonsense.

The ONLY reason you would EVER want to tune around or near your resonant frequency is if you are going for a complete SPL-geared setup where you want the loudest score possible out of your setup. Usually tuning to the resonant frequency will sound like complete shit for daily. Trust me, I know from experience. My truck may have a fairly low RF at 43-44 hz, but thats ALL my box can play since it is geared for SPL. The only music I can play full tilt that sounds good are songs that peak between 40 and 46 hz. Anything else sounds stupendously horrible.

 

[15nissen 10+ year member]

and if you havent got power yet. dont go anymore than 2k.

i had a orion 2500d on a type R 15 and it got stinky after 20 seconds at full tilt. I would not recommend that much power what so ever for daily crusing. My box was 4 cube / aero ports.

 

[Eat Italian 10+ year member]

Soooo, ummmm, 35 hz (which is widely known as a good "daily driving" tuning frequency) is "around" the 65 hz resonant frequency?
Just stop posting as you are just digging yourself down deeper and deeper into complete nonsense.

The ONLY reason you would EVER want to tune around or near your resonant frequency is if you are going for a complete SPL-geared setup where you want the loudest score possible out of your setup. Usually tuning to the resonant frequency will sound like complete shit for daily. Trust me, I know from experience. My truck may have a fairly low RF at 43-44 hz, but thats ALL my box can play since it is geared for SPL. The only music I can play full tilt that sounds good are songs that peak between 40 and 46 hz. Anything else sounds stupendously horrible.

Not to gloat or anything Mr. Tommyk90, but do you honestly hear what you're saying bro. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif I've got an SPL car that's built around SQ and SPL. Call it what you want but it sounds ****ing great regardless of this so called "class" you and everyone else these days want to speak of.

It has two JL 13 1/2" W7's, powered by two Zapco C2K 6.0X's, one per woofer. The box is over 7 cubes, and guess what it's tuned at? 44hz you know why it's tuned to 44hz? Yeah, that's because 44 Hz JUST HAPPENED to be the resonant frequency. Coincidence right?

. . As far as it sounding like complete shit as you're saying dude. The only shit that I'm hearing is that ****in noise coming from you mashing the keys on your keyboard. ~This goes to all of you e-tards on this forum.

Back on to the enclosure, the box is one of kind to my knowledge; supported by a concrete base. No we didn't use all concrete, but we didn't use MDF either, not even HDF or Plexi. We went with Birch because of its great dampening properties. Not to mention the IB setup with a "Slipstream Port" molded right into the Rear Deck that's obviously connected to the trunk; Trunk happening to become almost the whole actual enclosure.

It has an awesome front stage, Focal Component Speakers powered by a modified JL 450.4. It sounds wonderful when it's in DD mode, tuned, COMPLIMENTS OF THE DEH-P9800, and roars with ease in SPL mode (resonant frequency? hmmm probz). Seriously, we have 3 trophies winning 1st taking our class out of 3 total. Our highest number to give you an idea of what we hit so far 157db, not going to say what Mic though. Also, complete electrical; around 6 batteries; 2 Optimas 4 Kinetiks and the needed big 3. Still have more tuning and slight changes to be done but for now it's beautiful for our first job well done.

This thing is no bullshit; my friend and I are ready to take all. So be ****in ready...seriously don't //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif either because you don't want to get e-pwned on the internet and then get owned in person after you have to go up against it. I'm ready to put up a good fight with this beast of a build, going far and wide to do it.

As far as me digging myself "deeper and deeper" that's only because I need somewhere to put all the shit you’re spewing out right now.

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[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

Just stop posting as you are just digging yourself down deeper and deeper into complete nonsense.

Why didnt he listen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 

[jblanford 10+ year member]

Not to gloat or anything Mr. Tommyk90, but do you honestly hear what you're saying bro. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif I've got an SPL car that's built around SQ and SPL. Call it what you want but it sounds ****ing great regardless of this so called "class" you and everyone else these days want to speak of.
It has two JL 13 1/2" W7's, powered by two Zapco C2K 6.0X's, one per woofer. The box is over 7 cubes, and guess what it's tuned at? 44hz you know why it's tuned to 44hz? Yeah, that's because 44 Hz JUST HAPPENED to be the resonant frequency. Coincidence right?

. . As far as it sounding like complete shit as you're saying dude. The only shit that I'm hearing is that ****in noise coming from you mashing the keys on your keyboard. ~This goes to all of you e-tards on this forum.

Back on to the enclosure, the box is one of kind to my knowledge; supported by a concrete base. No we didn't use all concrete, but we didn't use MDF either, not even HDF or Plexi. We went with Birch because of its great dampening properties. Not to mention the IB setup with a "Slipstream Port" molded right into the Rear Deck that's obviously connected to the trunk; Trunk happening to become almost the whole actual enclosure.

It has an awesome front stage, Focal Component Speakers powered by a modified JL 450.4. It sounds wonderful when it's in DD mode, tuned, COMPLIMENTS OF THE DEH-P9800, and roars with ease in SPL mode (resonant frequency? hmmm probz). Seriously, we have 3 trophies winning 1st taking our class out of 3 so far. Our highest number to give you an idea of what we hit so far 157db, not going to say what Mic though. Also, complete electrical; around 6 batteries; 2 Optimas 4 Kinetiks and the needed big 3. Still have more tuning and slight changes to be done but for now it's beautiful for our first job well done.

This thing is no bullshit; my friend and I are ready to take all. So be ****in ready...seriously don't //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif either because you don't want to get e-pwned on the internet and then get owned in person after you have to go up against it. I'm ready to put up a good fight with this beast of a build, going far and wide to do it.

As far as me digging myself "deeper and deeper" that's only because I need somewhere to put all the shit you’re spewing out right now.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/bigwave.gif.16324171cad2db62cf4f16568b038478.gif

you are a FUKTARD //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

Not to gloat or anything Mr. Tommyk90, but do you honestly hear what you're saying bro. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif I've got an SPL car that's built around SQ and SPL. Call it what you want but it sounds ****ing great regardless of this so called "class" you want to speak of."
It has two JL 13 1/2" W7's, powered by two Zapco C2K 6.0X's, one per woofer. The box is over 7 cubes, and guess what it's tuned at? 44hz you know why it's tuned to 44hz? Yeah, that's because 44 Hz JUST HAPPENED to be the resonant frequency. Coincidence right?

. . As far as it sounding like complete shit as you're saying dude. The only shit that I'm hearing is that ****in noise coming from you mashing the keys on your keyboard. ~This goes to all of you e-tards on this forum.

Back on to the enclosure, the box is one of kind to my knowledge; supported by a concrete base. No we didn't use all concrete, but we didn't use MDF either, not even HDF or Plexi. We went with Birch because of its great dampening properties. Not to mention the IB setup with a "Slipstream Port" molded right into the Rear Deck that's obviously connected to the trunk; Trunk happening to become almost the whole actual enclosure.

It has an awesome front stage, Focal Component Speakers powered by a modified JL 450.4. It sounds wonderful when it's in DD mode, tuned, COMPLIMENTS OF THE DEH-P9800, and roars in SPL mode. Seriously, we have 3 trophies winning 1st taking our class out of 3 so far. Our highest number to give you an idea of what we hit so far 157db, not going to say what Mic though. Also, complete electrical; around 6 batteries; 2 Optimas 4 Kinetiks and the needed big 3. Still have more tuning and slight changes to be done but for now it's beautiful for our first job well done.

This thing is no bullshit; my friend and I are ready to take all. So be ****in ready...seriously don't //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif either because you don't want to get e-pwned on the internet and then get owned in person after you have to go up against it. I'm ready to put up a good fight with this beast of a build, going far and wide to do it.

As far as me digging myself "deeper and deeper" that's only because I need somewhere to put all the shit you’re spewing out right now.

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There's nothing "unique" about that enclosure at all. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Also, what does this supposed "SPL" car do on the termlab? You make it sound like it puts up some extremely good numbers. But since you won't say what mic, obviously it's not on the termlab. I've seen a monte carlo with one 12" do a 158 on an audiocontrol to give you an idea.

Is tuning to 44 hz entirely bad? No. Would I do it for a daily driver thats not geared for maximum SPL? Hell no.

I'm not sure where you came from, or what you think you've accomplished, but I can guarantee from your attitude that you don't have half as much knowledge as most of the respected people on this forum.

Go take your shit to ROE or somewhere else where n00bs might be impressed.

On a side note, how did you manage to have a 7 cube enclosure AND an IB setup in the same car? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

Edit: also, if you knew anything about SPL enclosure building, you would NOT use concrete on a box, as it tends to crack over time. If you didn't know, concrete does not have good TENSILE strength (unlike MDF or birch which can flex and bend much easier, thus not break under extreme abuse).

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

I've got an SPL car that's built around SQ and SPL. It has two JL 13 1/2" W7's,

. Focal Component Speakers powered by a modified JL 450.4. It sounds wonderful when it's in DD mode, tuned, COMPLIMENTS OF THE DEH-P9800, and roars in SPL mode. Seriously, we have 3 trophies winning 1st taking our class out of 3 so far. Our highest number to give you an idea of what we hit so far 157db, not going to say what Mic though. Also, complete electrical; around 6 batteries; 2 Optimas 4 Kinetiks and the needed big 3. Still have more tuning and slight changes to be done but for now it's beautiful for our first job well done.

Just highlighted a few things i found strange,funny, or unbelievable //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[Eat Italian 10+ year member]

There's nothing "unique" about that enclosure at all. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Also, what does this supposed "SPL" car do on the meter? You make it sound like it puts up some extremely good numbers.

Is tuning to 44 hz entirely bad? No. Would I do it for a daily driver thats not geared for maximum SPL? Hell no.

I'm not sure where you came from, or what you think you've accomplished, but I can guarantee from your attitude that you don't have half as much knowledge as most of the respected people on this forum.

Go take your shit to ROE or somewhere else where n00bs might be impressed.

lol, it's really all in good fun bro. the attitude is not serious at all, it's just how everyone comes off on this forum you really don't know how to talk to anybody. It seems like whatever you say there's always someone coming at you left and right. Maybe if people weren't such ****** mc vagine-steins nobody would have to argue and just take advice, making their own opinions. Take a bunch of information, from other people and decide yourself.

I'm tired of all the biased bullshit on EVERY forum these days, and the ****in GROUPS of people who follow the post count bandwagon.

Trust me, if you really think I'm mad or am serious you gotta lighten up. It's a ****in forum don't think anyone is ever getting truthfully mad. Sarcasm is king.

 

[Eat Italian 10+ year member]

Just highlighted a few things i found strange,funny, or unbelievable //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

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What i'm talking about.

Don't worry I'll get pictures up tommorow =)