12's not loud before enclosure???

[SSS 18734 5,000+ posts]

holy ****ing lawls

 

[badvlvo 10+ year member]

His trunk is the box //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

And I am sure it's well sealed and properly sized for those subs

holy ****ing lawls

Yep, this is a classic.

 

[Solo-baric 10+ year member]

the guy is a noob and everyone is a smartass? props to those who are willing to help and not be a dyck about it

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

There's nothing stopping the summation of the front and back waves so you have complete cancellation.

Boxes prevent this from happening.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

There's nothing stopping the summation of the front and back waves so you have complete cancellation.
Boxes prevent this from happening.

You will not get complete cancellation. Complete cancellation would mean you would not hear it at all. This is fairly difficult to do, even when trying.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

the guy is a noob and everyone is a smartass? props to those who are willing to help and not be a dyck about it

In all fairness, he already knew the answer, or he wouldn't have purchased an enclosure to begin with. Its like someone saying "hey guys, I have my tires on order, but decided to take my car around the block without any tires.... will it be faster if I put tires on it?"
I think he deserves a little good natured ribbing for asking such a common sense question.

 

[85_blazer 10+ year member]

hmm five gallon buckets huh.....thats would be one load bazooka tube!!!!

 

[drpeeb 10+ year member]

In all fairness, he already knew the answer, or he wouldn't have purchased an enclosure to begin with. Its like someone saying "hey guys, I have my tires on order, but decided to take my car around the block without any tires.... will it be faster if I put tires on it?"
I think he deserves a little good natured ribbing for asking such a common sense question.

I kind of disagree ... Before I tried it myself, I didn't know the exact effect an enclosure would have on a speaker ... I do now though!

OP ... Here's a good example. I installed a set of 6-3/4" Alpine full range speakers in my truck's doors. Before screwing the speaker into place, when I first plugged the speaker in & turned on the stereo on to make sure it was working, while holding the speaker in my hand, it sounded like complete cr@p, with no bass whatsoever. As soon as I held it up into its final mounting place, so I could screw it down ... WOW: bass! Pull it back away from the door: Cr@p again. Night & day difference. You are not supposed to hear the back of the speaker. You can even hear the bass increase as you put the speaker closer & closer to the hole.

And that's with just a little 6.5" mid-woofer ... Imagine the difference with a sub! In fact, I did also try this with a 10" sub: With the sub sitting on my seat not in any enclosure, you can almost not even hear it; Set it in its box, and BOOM, it's pounding out the bass. I think it's that subs need the right amount of restriction behind them, to create the right amount of pressure, in order to direct their waves outward as designed. There may be more the reasoning, but I'm no expert; I just know what I've experienced.

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

You will not get complete cancellation. Complete cancellation would mean you would not hear it at all. This is fairly difficult to do, even when trying.

For all intents and purposes, a subwoofer without acoustic suspension is useless. Yes, there will still be an amount of functional wave left over, though immaterial.

 

[subzero 5,000+ posts]

just use some 5 gallon buckets yo

oh yea, I did done dat before years ago. like jr high days.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

noob. Hate to see what he asks about an amp. Hey, I put the amp in my car and heard nothing...am I supposed to hook it up...lol

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

For all intents and purposes, a subwoofer without acoustic suspension is useless. Yes, there will still be an amount of functional wave left over, though immaterial.

Acoustic suspension has nothing to do with it. Many subs run infinite baffle, relying solely on their own suspension, quite sucessfully. What was being discussed here was a baffle separating front and rear waves.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I kind of disagree ... Before I tried it myself, I didn't know the exact effect an enclosure would have on a speaker ... I do now though!

You weren't sure placing the subs in an enclosure, rather thn just sitting them on the floor on their magnets, would improve performance?

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

Acoustic suspension has nothing to do with it. Many subs run infinite baffle, relying solely on their own suspension, quite sucessfully. What was being discussed here was a baffle separating front and rear waves.

I understand and that was rather implied when I said there's no separation between front and back waves, creating a canceling effect with minor residuals.

And that's true, as dipole operates in nearly the same manner but without complete separation of front/back waves like IB.

 

[Kastlez_ 10+ year member]

In all fairness, he already knew the answer, or he wouldn't have purchased an enclosure to begin with. Its like someone saying "hey guys, I have my tires on order, but decided to take my car around the block without any tires.... will it be faster if I put tires on it?"
I think he deserves a little good natured ribbing for asking such a common sense question.

exactly.