1.5 cubic ft and 2 (10s) VS 1.75 cubic ft for 1 (12)

[nyg052003]

the other day I went into a shop and right before I left, I got a pretty good revelation after listening to a worker of the shop's car. He had one 15 inch in a ported and vented box in a CRX and it was either a Memphis, Hertz or Arc if I recall correctly. It was pushed by an Arc 300.2 amp pushing 700x1 @ 4 ohms bridged mono. I was totally convinced that ONE sub absolutely can sound Amazing. I loved the way it hit and it has been a long long long time since I experienced anyone's vehicle hitting that hard with that kind of heart pounding thump. So I still have decisions to be made for my 95 Stang as to rather I want to go with 2 10's, one 10, or one 12. If just one sub I'd prefer one 12 although with the factory Mach 460 box in there, the box would have to be built so that the front to mount the speaker would be slanted because there is at most a 12 inch height allowance. So I've made my mind up to go with the Dayton audion HO 10's that require 0.7 cubic ft per driver.

just chatted with the tech, well I will copy and paste the conversation;

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Chris:

Hello. I am happy to help.

charles:

hi

i'm looking for the Dayton audio HO 10 inch sub that's a dvc 4 ohm

Chris:

that is this one

Dayton Audio RSS265HO-44 10" Reference HO DVC Subwoofer

charles:

ok hold on let me check if that's the one

ok there is a 10 inch one ,maybe just the 4 ohm svc that calls for 0.7 ft cubed right?

for vented box

Chris:

That is pretty small for a vented 10. Sometimes you have to be careful on boxes like that . Getting it tuned low enough to sound good may take a larger port than would fit

charles:

actually the specs on the Dayton Audio RSS265HO-4 10" Reference HO Subwoofer 4 Ohm says .47 for vented box

so the information is misleading or what lol?

Chris:

You can plug numbers into the program and it can tell you all kinds of things that may not work in real life, this is one of them,. You would be better vented in 1 to 1.5 cubic feet,

Sealed is the best for small boxes though

charles:

ok

yeah the guys on the forums, the audio heads most all of them said 0.7 for the Dayton Audio and that those subs love small boxes but

its a 95 mustang with a trunk so space is limited as I don't want to give up the entire trunk

Chris:

That is a great sealed alignment on both the svc and dvc

charles:

I will ask them if that was they meant vented or sealed but I'm sure they meant vented but you are the technician right lol?

Chris:

I do not recommend vented in cars, you can tune it high is output is all you care about, but in my opinion a sealed alignment is going to give a much flatter response in a vehicle

charles:

i heard a guy's CRX hatchback the other day and had one 15 inch either Memphis, hertz, or Arc sub in a good size vented box and was pushed by an Arc 300.2 amp @ 700w @ 4 ohm mono bridged. That dawgone thing thumped hard as heck lol

I wouldn't even need all of that what he had with just one 15

i would do either 2 10s, 1 10, or 1 12

ive always ran sealed boxes but have been out of touch past 10 years with an overall nice system so people were telling me vented and tuned was night and day from sealed. Can you give me a call

Chris:

A crx is going to be tough to beat just by its shape, box size matters too bigger boxes are going to dig deeper, I cannot call, but we do have techs available by phone at 800-338-0531

charles:

ok

thanks

are you familiar with the 95 mustangs trunk space

Chris:

Somewhat, there is not a lot of room if you want to use it as a trunk

charles:

not much

guess i will further investigate //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

thanks

Chris:

sure

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[nyg052003]

If I went with svc Dayton's I can go with the Creshendo 1500.1/F that's 1200 or 1500 by 1 @ 2 ohms but now I just have to decide or probably now need to hear a sealed box in a car that's around the size I want and let it convince or not convince me as to help me make my decision sealed vs vented

 

[negolien]

700 watts yeah heart thumping...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[nyg052003]

700 watts yeah heart thumping...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

was enough for me trust me. I'm not a competition guy or anything like that but that **** hit hard as hell lol. I mean my sub amp will be around 1500 though but if that made me happy I can imagine 1500 would sound though I have a mustang and him a CRX

 

[nyg052003]

I have an aftermarket battery gauge in my car but it would be nice to add a digital volt reader type thing like some of the amps have. Is a lot required to add one of those?

 

[Boominburban 10+ year member]

a technician huh ... does not recommend vented in a car....hmm. back when I did this for a living, i knew what most car res frq was and about how much cabin gain was to be had, and where ... and could design an extremely flat vented enclosure for most any vehicle .... some technician there .....wtf ...

And it wasn't just me, not bragging, any good installer/box designer worth a crap, could do the same .... just making a point here, not trying to boast ...

 

[nyg052003]

a technician huh ... does not recommend vented in a car....hmm. back when I did this for a living, i knew what most car res frq was and about how much cabin gain was to be had, and where ... and could design an extremely flat vented enclosure for most any vehicle .... some technician there .....wtf ...
And it wasn't just me, not bragging, any good installer/box designer worth a crap, could do the same .... just making a point here, not trying to boast ...

not sure if it will be a negative or not that the box builder won't have my car. I'm going to let Csstang build it, recommended by guys on here. It was another guy here also and either one could do it for me to be honest. Its a 95 mustang and hopefully them not having the car there won't be a negative. I already know what size LxWxH that I can go or rather the limitations for say the height with the Mach 460 in there so he would just have to substitute accordingly for the rest

 

[CSCStang]

not sure if it will be a negative or not that the box builder won't have my car. I'm going to let Csstang build it, recommended by guys on here. It was another guy here also and either one could do it for me to be honest. Its a 95 mustang and hopefully them not having the car there won't be a negative. I already know what size LxWxH that I can go or rather the limitations for say the height with the Mach 460 in there so he would just have to substitute accordingly for the rest

I run one HDC310 you should hear it....in my Mustang.

 

[nyg052003]

I run one HDC310 you should hear it....in my Mustang.

do you have any vids and how much power going to it?

how much cubic ft is the box

 

[CSCStang]

do you have any vids and how much power going to it?
how much cubic ft is the box

2 net cubes. ~2k@1ohm. Haven't done a vid yet. I will this weekend.

 

[nyg052003]

2 net cubes. ~2k@1ohm. Haven't done a vid yet. I will this weekend.

wow,yeah i'd like to see that vid. Hopefully I will have my mind made up by the weekend out so I can let you go ahead and get started on my box and pods

I kind of wouldn't mind going with one 12 but the front would have to be slanted some, couldn't be vertical because of the mach 460 box

 

[CSCStang]

wow,yeah i'd like to see that vid. Hopefully I will have my mind made up by the weekend out so I can let you go ahead and get started on my box and pods
I kind of wouldn't mind going with one 12 but the front would have to be slanted some, couldn't be vertical because of the mach 460 box

Sounds good. Just holler.

 

[nyg052003]

Sounds good. Just holler.

cool

I see you are using welding wire also?

 

[nyg052003]

how many subs do the general folks that hear your system think you are running?

if you didn't know it was yours how much subs would you think it would be lol?

 

[Boominburban 10+ year member]

not sure if it will be a negative or not that the box builder won't have my car. I'm going to let Csstang build it, recommended by guys on here. It was another guy here also and either one could do it for me to be honest. Its a 95 mustang and hopefully them not having the car there won't be a negative. I already know what size LxWxH that I can go or rather the limitations for say the height with the Mach 460 in there so he would just have to substitute accordingly for the rest

CSCStang will be able to do you up just fine. He doesn't need to have your car, as long as you give him good measurements. Or he might even already know a general size that does/doesn't fit in your car. You are going to be limited on sub selection by your car. And wanting/needing to keep the MACH system. DON'T fall victim to mutiple subs in inferior/too small enclosures, it WILL sound WAY worse than a single sub in a correct enclosure .... No matter what your buddies try and tell you ....