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[RobGMN Premium Member]

UH... Yes, he was incorrect. sorry.

Please show me where Trump ordered the $400,000,000. In this article, by your beloved NPR.org, they say it was all started under Biden and ended under Trump. It also states the EXACT thing I was saying. Tesla was not originally mentioned. It was a clerical error while under Biden. Tesla was not mentioned by Biden. In February, Elon even said it's not going to happen because he hasn't heard of it.

The $400,000,000 that was specifically earmarked for Teslas until the public found out, then they reworded it to "electric vehicles"..

I know details and facts mean little to you, but it went something like "The State Department said Thursday it is abandoning plans of purchasing $400 million worth of armored Tesla vehicles after a public document detailing federal contracts for fiscal year 2025 gained wide attention."
If there was not a plan to spend $400,000,000 on Teslas, WHY would the state department make a statement that they were abandoning the plan?

Read this VERY closely: "After the original procurement document attracted widespread attention, NPR reported that the Trump administration appeared to have quietly edited the document, changing the phrase “armored Tesla” to the more generic “armored electric vehicles” without explanation. Eventually, the item vanished from the State Department’s procurement document.The document claims it was originally published in December, at the end of former President Joe Biden’s term, but it does not appear in the Internet Archive for that month."

Critical thinking and due diligence.
You should really try them sometime.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

News Flash. Stocker didn't know that SSI was funded by Social Security. And he tried to tell me I didn't know anything about Social security.

Hey Stocker. I'm waiting for that apology.

News flash: If this is the quote you're talking about, he said no such thing.
"Yeah....SSI is supplemental security. Not SOCIAL security. So congratulations on continuing to prove your own inability to read correctly."

And he is right. When people say "Social Security", they are talking about what people usually get after retiring. It's formally known as RSDI (Retirement, Survivors, Disability).
SSI is a payment made to disabled people or elderly who don't get RSDI.

There's nothing in there that suggested stocker didn't know SSI is funded by the SSA.
Hell, he included a link that SAYS SSI is funded by the SSA. And YOU quoted it!

You really need to start trying.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

Your comments are so ignorant. It makes be swear you're a bot. You claim to be so smart on economics and Social Security, but yet you don't know where SSI comes from.

Understanding Supplemental Security Income (SSI)-- SSI Overview

This page provides info on how SSA pays monthly benefits to people with limited income and resources who are disabled, blind, or age 65 or older.

www.ssa.gov

Social Security is not Supplemental Income. They are two different things. SSI is paid for out of the general fund. Calling them the same is wrong no matter how many ways you try to say otherwise.

All you are doing is proving to everyone that you are willing to double down on being embarrassingly wrong.....over and over again.

Trump's negotiating table proves otherwise. Also, you don't see other countries making skits that mock Trump.

Also, why did it take Trump to go up and rescue the astronauts that were trapped in space? Musk offered to do it for Biden, but Biden turned him down. What a nice guy to just leave people to die it space. I guess it's a dem thing, like Obama leaving people in Benghazi to die.

Sure they are. Countries and world leaders laugh and mock him.

Go up and rescue the astronauts? lol. What are you just going down the list of newsmax talking points now....desperately trying to convince people that Trump isn't an anti-American dipshit? Sorry to tell you....it's not convincing. As far as I'm concerned....he's a domestic terrorist and a Russian puppet. Sleep well, cultist.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

News flash: If this is the quote you're talking about, he said no such thing.
"Yeah....SSI is supplemental security. Not SOCIAL security. So congratulations on continuing to prove your own inability to read correctly."

And he is right. When people say "Social Security", they are talking about what people usually get after retiring. It's formally known as RSDI (Retirement, Survivors, Disability).
SSI is a payment made to disabled people or elderly who don't get RSDI.

There's nothing in there that suggested stocker didn't know SSI is funded by the SSA.
Hell, he included a link that SAYS SSI is funded by the SSA. And YOU quoted it!
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You really need to start trying.

Really sad to watch this slapper character flail around like a fish on land. The deflections are even worse than initial takes.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

And if I drew a trendline during GWB and projected it forward, the market would be collapsed and gone.
What makes you think the market is supposed to follow a specific growth rate over time?

Because that's what markets do. That's why traders draw trendlines on their charts to determine if a stock, index, etc are over or under valued.

I wasn't talking global wages. I'm talking wages here in the US.

We are talking global wages since the comparison by default is US to global wages.

For example, imagine the US as closed economy: You pay workers $7.50 an hour to produce goods. Goods that you mark up 300% and sell to said workers
Worker needs a chair that you paid him $7.50 to assemble, plus $5.00 in parts. That chair is now $37.50. So Billy has to work 8 hours to buy a chair that he built in one hour.
Billy needs to pay rent. Billy makes $950/month after taxes, but the apartment you have for rent is $1,200. A single room in a shared apartment is $750.
Billy also eats about $350 a month in groceries (he eats at home to save money). Billy also needs bus fare to get around. $50.
Just by renting a room, eating food, and buying a chair to sit in, Billy is $188 in the hole in month #1, working full-time.

Please explain how we can pay workers the least amount possible, while simultaneously charging the most amount possible for goods (in order to make a profit), and have that be sustainable over time.

Gee it makes you wonder how the economy functioned prior to globalization. How is the Chinese economy able to function without cheap imported goods?

If the red states "want the jobs over government programs", then why aren't the red states creating the jobs they want? The imbalance of red states being taker states is not a new thing.
What is stopping them from having a booming job market?

What is stopping them - competing against China who not only restricts access to their markets but also undercuts them on wages.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Dear Leader demands to be loved.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I guess I'll have to eat my plate of crow (maybe). I ranted and railed against everybody on here about the "stolen election" or lack thereof and I still maintain there is scant evidence that 2020 was stolen. However, I see stuff like this and I have to wonder about 2020.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Because that's what markets do. That's why traders draw trendlines on their charts to determine if a stock, index, etc are over or under valued.

That's short-term stuff. The only trend that is for sure is that the market will go up in the long-term.

We are talking global wages since the comparison by default is US to global wages.

So you want to have a US-only economy, but want to talk global wages?
That makes no sense.

Gee it makes you wonder how the economy functioned prior to globalization. How is the Chinese economy able to function without cheap imported goods?

Huh? Do you have any clue about the US economy and how it was built?
Go look at who the wealthy were, and how they made their money. Try starting with the fur trade up north in the 1600's, and work your way forward.

What is stopping them - competing against China who not only restricts access to their markets but also undercuts them on wages.

And yet a blue state like CA has an economy big enough to be the 4th largest in the WORLD.
Maybe the red states need to take a lesson or ten?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I guess I'll have to eat my plate of crow (maybe). I ranted and railed against everybody on here about the "stolen election" or lack thereof and I still maintain there is scant evidence that 2020 was stolen. However, I see stuff like this and I have to wonder about 2020.

Here's the thing: When Trump and the entire GOP was unable to provide a shred of evidence for this massive fraud, EVEN UNDER A COURT ORDER, I find it hard to believe that some rando on YouTube has the evidence and has broken the case wide open.

Do you have any idea how much legitimate evidence of this massive conspiracy would be worth to the right? I GUARANTEE they would pay many millions for evidence that blew it wide open.
But instead, this guy is hoping to make a thousands from monetization of views?

Hell, even if YT paid a DOLLAR per view, he'd only have $382,000.
But...YouTube pays $0.01 - $0.03 per view. So he's made $11K on the HIGH side. Hmmm, $11K instead of MILLIONS?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Here's the thing: When Trump and the entire GOP was unable to provide a shred of evidence for this massive fraud, EVEN UNDER A COURT ORDER, I find it hard to believe that some rando on YouTube has the evidence and has broken the case wide open.

Do you have any idea how much legitimate evidence of this massive conspiracy would be worth to the right? I GUARANTEE they would pay many millions for evidence that blew it wide open.
But instead, this guy is hoping to make a thousands from monetization of views?

Hell, even if YT paid a DOLLAR per view, he'd only have $382,000.
But...YouTube pays $0.01 - $0.03 per view. So he's made $11K on the HIGH side. Hmmm, $11K instead of MILLIONS?

So obviously you didn't watch the videos?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That's short-term stuff. The only trend that is for sure is that the market will go up in the long-term.

Short term? You call an 8 year and 16 year trend line short term. You'll say anything to have something to blame Trump for. Remember when Thx used to the same to find something to blame Biden for??? That's what TDS does to you.

So you want to have a US-only economy, but want to talk global wages?
That makes no sense.

You're incapable of discussing both a protectionist economy and global economy? Xi must be a genius to operate both a protectionist economy while simultaneously dealing with global wages.

Huh? Do you have any clue about the US economy and how it was built?
Go look at who the wealthy were, and how they made their money. Try starting with the fur trade up north in the 1600's, and work your way forward.

Are you referring to the pre free trade economy?

And yet a blue state like CA has an economy big enough to be the 4th largest in the WORLD.
Maybe the red states need to take a lesson or ten?

CA's economy is built on entertainment and technology. Why you want to prevent job access to poorer states is beyond me.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

2000 Mules. Hard to dispute. Though the left does.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

2000 Mules. Hard to dispute. Though the left does.

Here's the problem I have with 2000 Mules. If they have all that geo location data, why didn't they just go interview some of these folks? Furthermore, just because a phone was in the proximity of ballot boxes doesn't mean they were dropping of ballots - for example any vender working with the library system in Denver/Metro would constantly be in the proximity of ballot boxes. I drive by a ballot box ~daily, but doesn't mean I'm stuffing it.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Judge rejects state’s effort to overturn Huntington Beach’s voter ID law

Judge Nico Dourbetas said the “challenged charter provision does not violate the right to vote and does not implicate the integrity of the electoral process.”

www.ocregister.com