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The planned tax cuts are going to increase the deficit significantly. So this idea that DOGE/Trump are going to "save us money" is such a ridiculous claim. Regular *** Americans aren't going to see any money coming back to us. We're going to be paying for for goods due to Trump's dunderheaded tariffs and those people who rely on public services/grants are going to see them reduced or entirely eliminated.

The question you should be asking is.....why is the left so opposed to DOGE and Trump pulling a reverse Robin Hood (taking from the poor to give to the rich) on the country? And you can probably answer that question yourself.
For the 10th time, I'm for increased taxes. If DOGE/Trump eliminate waste and fraud, then by definition they have saved us money. Just because you're not going to get a check signed by Elon Musk sent to you doesn't mean that money wasn't saved, waste wasn't eliminated, etc. Why is the left fighting so hard to keep waste and fraud in the system? It's crazy the excuses I've seen - the tax cuts will eat up the savings, Elon is really skimming money out of the coffer, Trump is a fraudster and something about a worldwide communist conspiracy. I hear they're sending the money straight to Putin.
 
I'm not sure I get the "by definition" part. Was the early retirement offered legally, or not?

When it was offered, had the funding been approved by Congress?
You see, this whole DOGE thing of just eliminating people by offering them an unfunded early retirement or short-term buyout plan is illegal. The Antideficiency Act says so.

CONGRESS has the power of the purse, not Trump, or Musk.
By definition it was legal when Clinton did because Clinton is Clinton. Kinda like Paula Jones was not credible when it was Clinton, but EJ Carroll, who is clearly not right in the head, is beyond reproach.
 
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For the 10th time, I'm for increased taxes. If DOGE/Trump eliminate waste and fraud, then by definition they have saved us money. Just because you're not going to get a check signed by Elon Musk sent to you doesn't mean that money wasn't saved, waste wasn't eliminated, etc. Why is the left fighting so hard to keep waste and fraud in the system? It's crazy the excuses I've seen - the tax cuts will eat up the savings, Elon is really skimming money out of the coffer, Trump is a fraudster and something about a worldwide communist conspiracy. I hear they're sending the money straight to Putin.

If they eliminate waste and fraud, then by definition they have saved us money. The inclusion of "us" in that sentence is nonsense. Every penny cut from other programs will be going directly to make up for the revenue lost due to tax cuts. And even then....the proposed tax cuts are going increase our deficit to an even larger amount.

Again....they are majorly overselling the amount of actual waste and fraud they are cutting. In reality, they are hacking away at legitimate programs that millions of people rely on. And it's not to save the majority of Americans money. It's to continue syphoning money to the multi-millionaires and billionaires....which is a huge disservice to the country as a whole.

 
A budget does not mean it's approved. A budget means "an estimated spending limit." I can't believe you just made that claim.
So, Biden's budgets were never approved? Or just the final one?
Of course EU would have to front the bill. That's the problem. EU is still processing if they want to front the funds and it doesn't look like they want to.


I understand you will believe whatever makes Trump look bad, instead of actually hearing what is being said. Did you also notice how Zelensky slammed Obama and Biden? watch it again and pay attention to what the conversation is. The US gave Zelensky billions and he has no idea where 40% of it went. On top of that, not once did he thank Obama or Biden for the money he was given. He just kept DEMANDING more money. For what? Why should be the only country that is dumping billions into his war?
maybe you got Zelensky and Trump confused?
"That wasn’t me. That was with a guy named Biden, who was not a smart person. That was with Obama, who gave you sheets. I gave you javelins. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. You got to be more thankful, because, let me tell you, you don’t have the cards."
Trump was the one who slammed Obama and Biden. His words are quoted above. Verbatim.
Trump has been in office for 3 months. That war is not the only issue Trump is dealing with. Biden had 2 years to fix it. If Trump ends it in 1 year, that's have the time Biden had, hence making it end quickly. Trump helped it slow down within the first month he was in office. Biden didn't do that.
Trump hasn't even been in office for 2 months. He'll hit that mark in a week.

He stated he would end the war in 24 hours. Of course, he later backpedaled and said that was just a "sarcastic" statement.
Remember when he talked about ingesting disinfectants and putting UV lights inside our bodies, and then later rolled back saying it was just sarcasm?
Maybe he should cut the bullshit and just tell the truth, instead of all this claimed hyperbole and sarcasm, huh?

Is buying into their ideas a bad thing, or continuing to believe the government is spending our money wisely? Am I 100% sold on their idea being the greatest? Nope! However, I think it is going in a better direction than it was under Biden. Biden allowed more groups to **** off USAID without properly reviewing them. Instead of only pulling out the negative, show me you're a free minded person and show the fraud in USAID. You don't have to look hard to find it.
It would be cool if you showed the fraud in USAID if you are going to claim it here.
Maybe some details and examples? Avoid just repeating the blanket claims that fraud is rampant simply because the appropriations were approved legally.
I will say he is not being honest with that statement. It's about as honest and Biden saying gas prices are cheaper under him than Trump.
He said that? When?
See, I can honestly say when my candidate is lying. Can you say that about your candidate? Rob couldn't.
I asked you multiple times to share some of the things you think Trump did illegally or unethically, and asked you to do the same about Harris, Biden, et al.
You never followed through on either request.
Are they actin in my best interest? Yes. Are all of their decisions in my best interest? No. However, their interests are a lot closer to mine than Biden and Kamala.
You believe it despite so much proof otherwise.
You think Trump taking deliberate action to ruin relationships with our allies around the world, while bending over for Putin, is in your best interest?
Holy sheep shiz straw man!
PLEASE show me where I said corporations will go under without tax cuts!!! I see why you say all these things about Trump. You exaggerate the actual claims that are actually being made. This is EXACTLY the same issue Rob has. You can't admit when you're wrong, so you have to "flip the script" and make extremely false accusations."
This post of yours outlines the eventual failure of a corporation due to taxes. I would consider failure synonymous with "go under".
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Economic was one of my majors. Corporations were profitable in the 80's because there was a huge push to buy American and China wasn't so powerful. Then Clinton came along and moved our auto industry to Mexico, so their suppliers had to follow.
So big corporations were profitable while being taxed at 40% rates in the 80's, but can't be profitable today with tax rates at 0-10%?
Yet the owners of big corporations can be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, and make $250 million a year without paying taxes on it?

"Clinton moved our auto industry to Mexico"?
I was under the impression that the US Auto industry was made up of companies owned by shareholders. Did they become state-owned during the Clinton administration?
 
Yes and you are in here with others trying to enjoy this thread and none of us care for your constant insults and condescension. I don't have a problem not calling you names until you start your bullshit.
Cool story. But not believable by any stretch of the imagination.

My "bullshit" and "constant insults and condescension".
Do you mean like when I continue to ask you for proof of of your claims, while ignoring you as you devolve into calling me a "smelly ****", "*******", "little *****" or "*********"?

I guess you forgot your posts from just this past week alone, huh?

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By definition it was legal when Clinton did because Clinton is Clinton. Kinda like Paula Jones was not credible when it was Clinton, but EJ Carroll, who is clearly not right in the head, is beyond reproach.
I'm afraid I don't follow your belief that what a POTUS does is legal just because they do it while in office.
I personally don't GAS if Trump is president or not. If he breaks the law, then he has broken the law,

If EJ Carroll is so "not right in the head", how is it that she gave 3 days of testimony that Trump's attorneys were not able to tear apart and show as the ravings of a lunatic mind? Not even Trump's testimony could prove she was lying?

She is not right in the head, but able to put one over on a team of attorneys, a jury, AND a judge?

Pretty amazing stuff.
 
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Nothing like a government representative promoting a product, huh?
No ethics violation THERE...🙄

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Describing freedom of the press as "Illegal".
Don't they teach about that in middle or high school?

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Lemme guess: More "sarcasm"?
 
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I'm afraid I don't follow your belief that what a POTUS does is legal just because they do it while in office.
I personally don't GAS if Trump is president or not. If he breaks the law, then he has broken the law,

If EJ Carroll is so "not right in the head", how is it that she gave 3 days of testimony that Trump's attorneys were not able to tear apart and show as the ravings of a lunatic mind? Not even Trump's testimony could prove she was lying?

She is not right in the head, but able to put one over on a team of attorneys, a jury, AND a judge?

Pretty amazing stuff.
Again you're asking me to believe that a Billionaire that's banging models and pornstars is sexually abusing random feminist authors in department store dressing rooms. These women that keep popping up from "every" politician or USSC nominee's past aren't very credible to me. Personally, I hope they never gain credibility or 50% of the men in this country will be facing these types of charges. Additionally, the whole basis of the case is garbage, she's claiming millions in damages, when the Trump scandal boosted her popularity.
 
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Cool story. But not believable by any stretch of the imagination.

My "bullshit" and "constant insults and condescension".
Do you mean like when I continue to ask you for proof of of your claims, while ignoring you as you devolve into calling me a "smelly ****", "*******", "little *****" or "*********"?

I guess you forgot your posts from just this past week alone, huh?

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😭😭😭😭😭😭 See, even after you cried to the admin and kept insulting me until I reported you some more you want to go back past that and relive the past. See, you can't let shit go. You just have to be right, have to have the last word. It is the same with your politics. You have to drone on and on and on. Every one of those screen shots came after you do your routine.
 
I'm afraid I don't follow your belief that what a POTUS does is legal just because they do it while in office.
I personally don't GAS if Trump is president or not. If he breaks the law, then he has broken the law,

If EJ Carroll is so "not right in the head", how is it that she gave 3 days of testimony that Trump's attorneys were not able to tear apart and show as the ravings of a lunatic mind? Not even Trump's testimony could prove she was lying?

She is not right in the head, but able to put one over on a team of attorneys, a jury, AND a judge?

Pretty amazing stuff.
So then you are all for prosecuting Joe Biden for the crimes he committed while in the White House?
 
Again you're asking me to believe that a Billionaire that's banging models and pornstars is sexually abusing random feminist authors in department store dressing rooms. These women that keep popping up from "every" politician or USSC nominee's past aren't very credible to me. Personally, I hope they never gain credibility or 50% of the men in this country will be facing these types of charges. Additionally, the whole basis of the case is garbage, she's claiming millions in damages, when the Trump scandal boosted her popularity.
So a billionaire banging models and pornstars can't be a deviant?
Have you ever heard the name Epstein? How about Cosby? Simmons? O'Reilly? Weinstein? Ailes? Lauer? Kelly? Masterson? Sandusky? Albert? Swaggart? HUNDREDS of Catholic priests?

Again, if she is just a nutcase, how did she pull the wool over over the eyes of Trump, his legal team, the jury, the judge?
 
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So then you are all for prosecuting Joe Biden for the crimes he committed while in the White House?
You've asked before, and I've asked for the list fo the crimes.
You failed to provide it then.

If I ask again, will you fail to provide it again?
I'll try: Please provide the list of crimes you allege Biden committed while in the White House.
Be specific.
 
You've asked before, and I've asked for the list fo the crimes.
You failed to provide it then.

If I ask again, will you fail to provide it again?
I'll try: Please provide the list of crimes you allege Biden committed while in the White House.
Be specific.
Go do some reading.



 
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