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The post I quoted. I'm going to say burning charging stations counts as "losing their freaking minds." You're welcome to pretend it's about the "WAY" the waste is being eliminated, personally, I think it's more about who is doing the eliminating and what is being eliminating. I suspect if it was Sleepy Joe eliminating "wall" spending, they could care less how it was accomplished.
Kind of like how the right lost their minds when Target had pride-friendly merchandise, and wanted to shut them down, and threatened their workers?
Kind of like how they lost their minds when Bud Light used a ***** person in their advertising, including bomb threat direct to Anheuser Busch?
Kind of like how they lose their minds and physically attack women and workers at abortion clinics?

Or is that all a "good" way to "lose their minds"?
The reason the GOP is cutting funding to education is because, my school district for example spends $15k/student/yr and the fawking kids still can't read, do math, etc. But they sure did a great job explaining to the students why the ICE raids are scary while skipping over the fact that those raids took guns, drugs, gangsters and other bad folks off the streets. Ironically, the one-sided education occurred in a college prep classs, thus making it oddly appropriate. Even more ironic, is the "ICE Raid Education" is about the most "college" thing they've done. Kinda crazy how they're able to teach the concepts they want to get across, but fail to teach the basics.
So defunding education that doesn't fit your personal narrative is good.

What kind of test do they give to confirm the kids retained the information they were "taught" about ICE raids?
Do they also test the kids to see what they retained from their Active Shooter lessons?
Why are we paying for those lessons? Why are we paying to have Bibles brought back into public schools?
Religious indoctrination is good, but it's bad to tell kids that they should not be ashamed of who they are?
Have I not always championed Universal Healthcare on here? When have I ever said or implied the poor shouldn't be covered? What I don't want to do is pay taxes for healthcare only to find it's being wasted on a bunch of leftist social & cultural issues. I don't want to pay FICA only to find out the system is full of grift. I don't want to pay $300 for toilet seats in the Pentagon. But lets all worry about the "way" we eliminate that stuff.
My apologies. I read your phrasing as "why would I support UH" when it seems you are asking why you should support it if the left doesn't feel Musk and DOGE are an appropriate way to "handle waste".

Have we seen proof that Musk (who may or may not be running DOGE, depending on what Trump says or what his lawyers tell Congress) and his crew have actually eliminated waste by driving down the cost charged to the government for toilet seats and the like (which, BTW is the government's own fault for a variety of reasons, not limited to requiring insane standards for everyday items, paying more than retail to support US manufacturing, etc, etc).

I know they've made great claims of billions and billions saved, but who is auditing THEM? I'd like to see a very detailed writeup of what they "saved" and how they "saved" it.

Sorry, but stealing money back from a state after Congress legally appropriated it to them is not "saving" money. It's stealing it. Why not take back a few billion from Lockheed, Boeing, or any other of the suppliers of military hardware, since they overcharge us for stuff? Take back a few billion from Blackwater or Haliburton, since they are involved in scandals that make the US look bad? How about the money given to foreign companies to build business here, and then they decided not to? Why not just freeze the assets of every Russian oligarch and put it in our pocket?
Stealing is OK. Right?
 
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Kind of like how the right lost their minds when Target had pride-friendly merchandise, and wanted to shut them down, and threatened their workers?
Kind of like how they lost their minds when Bud Light used a ***** person in their advertising, including bomb threat direct to Anheuser Busch?
Kind of like how they lose their minds and physically attack women and workers at abortion clinics?

Or is that all a "good" way to "lose their minds"?
Yes, just like that. Do you not remember me criticizing the neocons that lost their minds over Dylan Mulvaney? Harassing Target workers was completely uncalled for. Again, who criticized USSC for overturning Roe v Wade - hint, his name starts with Jimi and ends with 77.
So defunding education that doesn't fit your personal narrative is good.
Political education should be off limits or balanced. What my school district does is clearly biased. Should I be able to a socialist's tax dollars to teach the upsides of free market economies without mentioning the pitfalls?

What kind of test do they give to confirm the kids retained the information they were "taught" about ICE raids?
Do they also test the kids to see what they retained from their Active Shooter lessons?
Why are we paying for those lessons? Why are we paying to have Bibles brought back into public schools?
Religious indoctrination is good, but it's bad to tell kids that they should not be ashamed of who they are?
Did I say anything about wanting to bring Bibles into public schools? Have I ever posted anything that indicates I'm religious/Christian or don't respect the separation of Church and State? Thus far your post reads like you're responding to somebody other than me. Did you mix me up with Old_Slapper or something?
My apologies. I read your phrasing as "why would I support UH" when it seems you are asking why you should support it if the left doesn't feel Musk and DOGE are an appropriate way to "handle waste".

Have we seen proof that Musk (who may or may not be running DOGE, depending on what Trump says or what his lawyers tell Congress) and his crew have actually eliminated waste by driving down the cost charged to the government for toilet seats and the like (which, BTW is the government's own fault for a variety of reasons, not limited to requiring insane standards for everyday items, paying more than retail to support US manufacturing, etc, etc).
I've seen proof they are eliminating wasteful spending. I assume the $300 toilet will be gotten to. I'd like to see subsidies to Big Pharma and Big Oil go away as well. If this turns into an exercise in "we saved you 10 cents, ignore the $10 in obvious waste," then I'll be more critical of DODE, but currently they seem to be making progress.
 
You admitted it in this forum.
"I lifted her off her feet and held her against the wall and told her she would not do that again."
Sure did.
"I knocked the T total shit out of my pill popping sister on two different occasions for disrespecting our mother."
Correct again.
I'M one of the people you told to off himself:
"You, a tall tree, a tight rope, your neck?"
Just a question.
"Go kill yourself. Ignore the all caps. Ignore the details. Throw out comprehension. Get a rope and kill yourself. Moron."
"Go find a tall tree and bring a short rope.
Correct again.


Oh? You forgot that you wanted to go meet up with Bobby and beat him up?
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Yup, correct again.
You seem to be the one always having difficulty with our language.
Not at all. I absolutely said, past tense, those things. You need to learn how to replace words fella... things like "tell" with "told". I don't care about your spin that "technically everything is in the past" Technically, you're an *******. There is a reason language has tenses.
Ironic that you are lying when you accuse me of lying.
I am not lying.
Your false accusations have been disproved yet again.
Incorrect kiddo.
You're not even a challenge; it's like fish in a barrel FFS.
Really? I mean, I do know when to use told over tell... but ya know.

So tell me oh hater of Trump and Musk. What specifically do you not like about DOGE?
 
Sure did.
So when you said my claim was a lie, you were lying.
Correct again.
So when you said my claim was a lie, you were lying.
Just a question.
No, it was a statement. it went something like this:
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So you are lying about it being a "question".
Correct again.

Yup, correct again.

Not at all. I absolutely said, past tense, those things. You need to learn how to replace words fella... things like "tell" with "told". I don't care about your spin that "technically everything is in the past" Technically, you're an *******. There is a reason language has tenses.
So if you are employed and someone asks how often you go to work, you say "I WENT every day?"
If I asked you how often you eat lunch, you'd say "I ATE lunch almost every day in 2022"?

Yeah, our language befuddles you.
I am not lying.
You just admitted to it, but now deny it?

Incorrect kiddo.

Really? I mean, I do know when to use told over tell... but ya know.
So you TOLD the truth, but you don't TELL the truth?
Got it.
So tell me oh hater of Trump and Musk. What specifically do you not like about DOGE?
The illegality of it.
The lack of transparency in what is being done.
The illegality of many things being done.
The lies about what is being done.
The lies about who is doing it.
The lack of using people who are actually trained to do audits, and claiming they've performed audits on trillions of dollars in funding within days, when the team that does Trump's personal taxes alone is bigger.
The danger of giving unfettered access of the system/s to a guy and his minions simply because he bought Trump's friendship.
The fact that within days, the team had already released classified data.
The fact that this team of "geniuses" had their website hacked within days.
The fact that Musk is seeing government contracts that are with direct competitors of his, in violation of data privacy.
The fact that they are pushing for Social Security cust, when Social Security is a program we pay into directly for the purpose of getting that money back in the future.

Would you like more?
 
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So Trump and Vance did know what they were doing. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

On a (not) funny side note, I was going go put American Flags up there, but that emoji isn't available for some odd reason. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

 
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Who should the Dems nominate for POTUS 2028? All this assumes Trump doesn't go full dictator as expected by many on the left. There is also the possibility of Musk or Putin just directly taking control of the gov't. Can any of these bozos beat Vance?

Tampon Timmy: He is pretty soy and I can only describe that expression on his face as “Pegged Face.”

Kamala: She’s considering a run for Governor of California. That could really throw in wrench things for the Dems. Can she word salad herself to either Gov of CA or POTUS?

Gavin Newsom: If he loses a run for Governor, then I think that demonstrates he cannot be elected at the national level.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer: She was for hardcore lockdowns, which will carry weight with Dems. She is Governor of a swing state so that’s 2 pros to her running.

Mark Cuban: I think he looked foolish with his comments supporting Kamala, but I don’t think that makes Mark a fool. I think he could be the liberal version of Trump.

Other???
 
DOGE need to audit states on how they 2020 CARES Act money. Our state officials took the hazard money that was for front line workers and decided to put pit towards their special projects. Only some unions and state workers received and many unions are still fighting it. Basically they city said were supposed to get but they don’t know how to pay since they spent it already. Our company president and city council were in bed and decided since we were working full time we didn’t need it and got promoted DOT after. Also they try to weasel out stating in our contract didn’t include hazard work but we are considered essential workers during emergencies
 
Who should the Dems nominate for POTUS 2028? All this assumes Trump doesn't go full dictator as expected by many on the left. There is also the possibility of Musk or Putin just directly taking control of the gov't. Can any of these bozos beat Vance?

Tampon Timmy: He is pretty soy and I can only describe that expression on his face as “Pegged Face.”

Kamala: She’s considering a run for Governor of California. That could really throw in wrench things for the Dems. Can she word salad herself to either Gov of CA or POTUS?

Gavin Newsom: If he loses a run for Governor, then I think that demonstrates he cannot be elected at the national level.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer: She was for hardcore lockdowns, which will carry weight with Dems. She is Governor of a swing state so that’s 2 pros to her running.

Mark Cuban: I think he looked foolish with his comments supporting Kamala, but I don’t think that makes Mark a fool. I think he could be the liberal version of Trump.

Other???
Waltz would wipe the floor with Trump in a comparison of capabilities, though that's not saying much. So could one of my teen relatives.

"Tampon Tim". Likely meant to be a pejorative, yet I bet your daughter would have been happy if she was sitting in class bleeding, and no one had a feminine product to give her, but she could run to the restroom and get one.

People like Tim try to help others.
People like Trump try to **** others.
Did he get school lunches abolished yet?
 
So you TOLD the truth, but you don't TELL the truth?
Got it.
You lied, I am telling the truth. I said, past tense, those things. I do not continue to say them as your words would indicate. Details matter. I do not beat women.
The illegality of it.
The lack of transparency in what is being done.
The illegality of many things being done.
The lies about what is being done.
The lies about who is doing it.
The lack of using people who are actually trained to do audits, and claiming they've performed audits on trillions of dollars in funding within days, when the team that does Trump's personal taxes alone is bigger.
The danger of giving unfettered access of the system/s to a guy and his minions simply because he bought Trump's friendship.
The fact that within days, the team had already released classified data.
The fact that this team of "geniuses" had their website hacked within days.
The fact that Musk is seeing government contracts that are with direct competitors of his, in violation of data privacy.
The fact that they are pushing for Social Security cust, when Social Security is a program we pay into directly for the purpose of getting that money back in the future.

Would you like more?
More, you haven't said anything? I said what do you have a specific problem with. Ok, let us go with the lack of transparency as you put it. They are literally telling you everything they are doing. How is that not transparent.

Let your fingers do the walking.

https://doge.gov/
 
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