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[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

FACT SHEET: AB 1333 is Life-Saving Legislation Aimed at Preventing Those Who Shoot First and Ask Questions Later

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Last week, Assemblymember Rick Chavez Zbur introduced AB 1333 to update the state’s self-defense laws. The legislation explicitly clarifies that Californians must avoid resorting to fatal actions …

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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You think the effects of the tariffs have set in? Ooof. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. Not that it matters. One thing that has been abundantly clear is that the most hardcore shills can find a way to justify the constant lying and double talk.

You're the one that brought up inflation and tariffs. If you don't think the tariffs have anything to do with price increase then why did you bring them up? When BidenCo kept doling out Covid benefits when it was clear that covid was fading away rather quickly, were you as equally concerned about inflation?

Trump is siding with the guy that he's had a man crush on since his first term. Trump loves dictators because that's what he wants to be. Comrade Trump. Putin's sidekick.

Just you guys just can't let it go. Like I said, keep running with this one. So Trump is both a commie & a fascist? What will you guys say when he vacates the WH in 4 years? Will he still be a dictator? It's sad, but hilarious to see that this is what the left has been reduced to.

Tariffs are an extra cost. When costs go up, so do prices. This is elementary stuff. You really don't need even basic economic understanding to have common sense.

Not sure what point you are trying to make with the corporate tax add-on here. Are you trying to say that lowering corporate taxes is going to cause them to lower prices? Yeah.....because that's happened every other time taxes have been cut. Just desperate to make excuses for Donald Dump and the impending disaster he's going to cause.

I never said prices fall with cuts in corporate taxes. Of course corporate boards are going to look to see how much of a tax cut they can pocket or fund stock buybacks, etc. Funds may also go to capital spending or job creation.

The point you so so obviously avoided is, that tariffs have the same net effect as raising corporate taxes, but team blue loves talking about going after corporate profits even if the DNC never actually follows through. Team blue loves talking about going after the wealth holding class, who can merely increase costs to offset their increased taxes.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Funding not only one of our enemies but one of the most despicable terrorist organizations on the planet with our own tax dollars. Clearly there was some sort of insane Dogma that USAID and the pro-Hamas college students share. They simultaneously support the woke/***** agenda will also supporting a terror organization that would kill ***** people on sight and not just kill them but throw them from a rooftop or stone them to death. You can't make this 'ish up.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

If DOGE is finding fraud, over spending, financial abuse in the billions and billions of dollars and it is being handled by Trump/Elon to stop this waste, why do you lefties think they have to cut stuff like medicare or ss like you hysterics keep claiming? Do you think Trump/Elon will just take that money, move to Russia and party with Putin?

Because it's a convenient narrative. As Speaker Johnson mention, you can word search for Medicare in the latest spending resolution and Medicare isn't mentioned once. SS's problems are structural and SS will either have to be cut or frozen or retirement ages will need to be increased, etc. Ultimately, we've been on an unchecked deficit spending orgy since Reagan took office. Clinton tried to reign it in a little, hopefully Trump is more committed than the Clinton administration.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Like no tax on tips or overtime?

I'm not a big proponent of tax cuts, but I would get some serious OT when the company is "on project." A little ~30% bump on those wages would certainly help with the PITA that has been (grocery) inflation that past ~2 years.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Puck these idiots. The right (to my knowledge) hasn't busted into Disney HQ, etc. The funny thing is a big majority of the people I know that sell Tesla's, Tesla Solar products or own Teslas are liberals. Maybe they'll start dumping their Teslas and I can pick up a Y or S when when my son eventually inherits the wife's car. OTOH, it would probably be a ***** to upgrade the audio system.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The fact that Zelensky acted as he did with Trump/Vance (IMHO) reveals that he was used to being treated as an equal or superior to Biden. You come to the US begging for help and expect to get treated as an equal? He needs the US to get anything resembling a decent outcome and doesn't treat Trump with the utmost respect. I like Zelensky, but he needs to pull his head out of his arse if he thinks he doesn't have to bend the knee to both Trump and Putin to save his country.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

LOL, too bad DOGE pulled the plug on USAID. And of course surprise USAID funds found their way into the hands of Hamas.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

You're the one that brought up inflation and tariffs. If you don't think the tariffs have anything to do with price increase then why did you bring them up? When BidenCo kept doling out Covid benefits when it was clear that covid was fading away rather quickly, were you as equally concerned about inflation?

Just you guys just can't let it go. Like I said, keep running with this one. So Trump is both a commie & a fascist? What will you guys say when he vacates the WH in 4 years? Will he still be a dictator? It's sad, but hilarious to see that this is what the left has been reduced to.

I never said prices fall with cuts in corporate taxes. Of course corporate boards are going to look to see how much of a tax cut they can pocket or fund stock buybacks, etc. Funds may also go to capital spending or job creation.

The point you so so obviously avoided is, that tariffs have the same net effect as raising corporate taxes, but team blue loves talking about going after corporate profits even if the DNC never actually follows through. Team blue loves talking about going after the wealth holding class, who can merely increase costs to offset their increased taxes.

A 0.1% inflation increase could be attributable to any number of things. Impossible to determine what/if any of that increase is attributable to the tariffs (some of which went into effect less than a month ago, and a bunch more that are still pending). What I do know is that business folks have said the obvious about the impending tariffs.....that increased costs to manufacturing inputs will end up increasing the price of the goods being sold. No shit?

Trump is a wannabe dictator. He's basically said it himself. Nobody should be surprised when he heaps praise onto the absolute worst world leaders. They're the blueprint that he wants to follow. Proving that quite clearly with the constant stream of illegal maneuvers his administration has pulled in the first month and a half.

The final paragraph is nothing more than a strawman argument. Corporate tax rates have been steadily dropping since the 50's, with the exception of an increase in the early 80's.

Once again....we're not talking about a corporate tax INCREASE. We're talking about another corporate tax CUT. Because that's the only direction that the taxes go. Lower. Notice any correlation between falling tax rates and the deficit? The Trump tax cuts last time around exploded the deficit....and these ones will be just as bad if not worse.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

If Trump is vital, then why did you fly off to the UK? If Zelensky thinks the UK's leftist regime is going to sway Trump he's sorely mistaken. I get storming out a negotiation, but leaving the US was a bad move IMHO. He should have rescheduled to allow everybody (including himself) to cool off and reevaluate their stances.

Zelenskyy says Trump support ‘crucial’ after bruising Oval Office clash

Ukrainian president lands in the U.K. for summit with European leaders, seeking to reaffirm alliances after tense confrontation with the U.S. president.

www.politico.eu

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

Puck these idiots. The right (to my knowledge) hasn't busted into Disney HQ, etc. The funny thing is a big majority of the people I know that sell Tesla's, Tesla Solar products or own Teslas are liberals. Maybe they'll start dumping their Teslas and I can pick up a Y or S when when my son eventually inherits the wife's car. OTOH, it would probably be a ***** to upgrade the audio system.

Nah.....just busted into the capitol building and assaulted police officers. How did that turn out? Pardoned? Yeah....that tracks.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

A 0.1% inflation increase could be attributable to any number of things. Impossible to determine what/if any of that increase is attributable to the tariffs (some of which went into effect less than a month ago, and a bunch more that are still pending). What I do know is that business folks have said the obvious about the impending tariffs.....that increased costs to manufacturing inputs will end up increasing the price of the goods being sold. No shit?

Trump is a wannabe dictator. He's basically said it himself. Nobody should be surprised when he heaps praise onto the absolute worst world leaders. They're the blueprint that he wants to follow. Proving that quite clearly with the constant stream of illegal maneuvers his administration has pulled in the first month and a half.

The final paragraph is nothing more than a strawman argument. Corporate tax rates have been steadily dropping since the 50's, with the exception of an increase in the early 80's.

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Once again....we're not talking about a corporate tax INCREASE. We're talking about another corporate tax CUT. Because that's the only direction that the taxes go. Lower. Notice any correlation between falling tax rates and the deficit? The Trump tax cuts last time around exploded the deficit....and these ones will be just as bad if not worse.

Maybe you've missed out on how and why Trump is using tariffs. It's been an effective way to get cooperation from Mexico and Venezuela. It's the only way to balance our trade relationship with China and bring those jobs back that Perot predicted would vanish when he ran against Clinton & Bush. You can rail all you want against tariffs, but they are a necessary evil, GATT, NAFTA & free markets have failed us. It's ironic that after decades of the left railing free markets, we see that politically right has finally realized the obvious, so the left changes their position because TDS.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I like Vance, but I do have to admit that's funny.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Nah.....just busted into the capitol building and assaulted police officers. How did that turn out? Pardoned? Yeah....that tracks.

Touche' Nevertheless, I railed against the Jan 6th rioters and Trump's role in it. Additionally, I don't support blanket pardons of the rioters. Some should only get commuted sentences and there are some that probably should serve out their sentences. OTOH, at least the Jan 6th rioters served time, which is much more than happened to the BLM rioters.