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[Old_Slapper]

In a ranking of states that are least dependent on Federal funds, California is #2. New Jersey is the #1 least federally dependent state.
Translated: California pays more into the federal coffers than it gets back from the federal coffers.

Flip side: States like New Mexico, Mississippi, Kentucky, West Virginia, get back more than they pay in.
Thus, the states that pay more and get less are supporting the states that pay less and get more.

Still confused? Think of it this way: You go to lunch with a friend, and agree to split the bill 50/50. He orders steak, you order a hot dog.
You're supporting his eating habits.

Oh hum... The California is not paying anything. The companies here are paying it with federal taxes. And, these companies are starting to look at other states to do business in.

So, originally said that California is paying for the red states. Now your saying California is #2 when depending on federal funds. If you are depending on federal funds, how can you be paying the federal funds.

Still confused? Thing of it this way: You and your 4 buddies go to lunch and agree to split the bill 25/25/25/25. The bill comes out to $40. You only have $5 and the two others only have $2. One buddy pays the remainder of the bill. Although you received the least amount of money, you still received the money.
Your buddy is supporting your eating habits.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Rumor has that Judge George A. O’Toole Jr. is also an OG car audio fanatic and has been reading this thread and realized there are all sorts of examples of spending that falls out of the "appropriations" clause/process and changed his mind. Trump's buyouts can move forward. The Evil Orange Guy is just kicking arse and taking names. Before anybody goes and says this proves Rob wrong, it doesn't. It just proves Rob's other point - that Trump is a Fascist Dictator.

Judge rules Trump's sweeping plan to persuade federal workers to resign can move forward

U.S. District Judge George A. O’Toole Jr. dissolved his restraining order blocking the "deferred resignations" program after finding the plaintiffs lacked legal standing.

www.nbcnews.com

Number one, you said it's a rumor.

However, I need to ask you to explain how Trump is being a "fascist dictator" by asking people to resign. Have you been keeping up with all the issues behind it? So it's okay to do this in the civilian world, but not in the government? They have jobs that are no needed. Don't say I don't understand because I have a sister and two buddies that are affected with this, and they don't blame Trump for shutting them down because they knew their job was a waste of tax dollars. My sister was an assistant to an assistant. She never had to go into work and rarely had to do any work. $85k a year and flew all over the world for "business purposes." The entire family got to go also.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Oh hum... The California is not paying anything. The companies here are paying it with federal taxes. And, these companies are starting to look at other states to do business in.

Poor attempt at a strawman. "Starting to look at" means diddly squat to the facts and history.
Try harder.

So, originally said that California is paying for the red states. Now your saying California is #2 when depending on federal funds. If you are depending on federal funds, how can you be paying the federal funds.

You thought my weeks-old typo of hitting "'k" instead of "g" was the total game changer in my volleys with ThxOne, but you completely failed to understand this:
"In a ranking of states that are least dependent on Federal funds, California is #2. New Jersey is the #1 least federally dependent state.
Translated: California pays more into the federal coffers than it gets back from the federal coffers."
Try harder.

Still confused? Thing of it this way: You and your 4 buddies go to lunch and agree to split the bill 25/25/25/25. The bill comes out to $40. You only have $5 and the two others only have $2. One buddy pays the remainder of the bill. Although you received the least amount of money, you still received the money.
Your buddy is supporting your eating habits.

That sounds like the ramblings of my drunk cousin.
Why would I receive any money, if my portion of the bill is $5 more than I have in my wallet?
But yes. My buddy from California paid the bill for my West Virginia broke ***, our friend's Mississippi broke ***, and our other friend's Kentucky broke ***.

Just like I said in my previous post:
In a ranking of states that are least dependent on Federal funds, California is #2. New Jersey is the #1 least federally dependent state.
Translated: California pays more into the federal coffers than it gets back from the federal coffers.

Flip side: States like New Mexico, Mississippi, Kentucky, West Virginia, get back more than they pay in.
Thus, the states that pay more and get less are supporting the states that pay less and get more.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Number one, you said it's a rumor.

However, I need to ask you to explain how Trump is being a "fascist dictator" by asking people to resign. Have you been keeping up with all the issues behind it? So it's okay to do this in the civilian world, but not in the government? They have jobs that are no needed. Don't say I don't understand because I have a sister and two buddies that are affected with this, and they don't blame Trump for shutting them down because they knew their job was a waste of tax dollars. My sister was an assistant to an assistant. She never had to go into work and rarely had to do any work. $85k a year and flew all over the world for "business purposes." The entire family got to go also.

WOW. His post flew THAT far over your head?
And I'll call bullshit immediately on your story of your sister and her family being flown all over the world to not do anything.
GMAFB.

I'll bet you are one of those dolts who talks about welfare recipients waving their checks at people who pass by their porch on their way to work.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Number one, you said it's a rumor.

However, I need to ask you to explain how Trump is being a "fascist dictator" by asking people to resign. Have you been keeping up with all the issues behind it? So it's okay to do this in the civilian world, but not in the government? They have jobs that are no needed. Don't say I don't understand because I have a sister and two buddies that are affected with this, and they don't blame Trump for shutting them down because they knew their job was a waste of tax dollars. My sister was an assistant to an assistant. She never had to go into work and rarely had to do any work. $85k a year and flew all over the world for "business purposes." The entire family got to go also.

Trump is clearly being a Fascist Dictator. The DNC platform consisted of the following 4 main planks:

Trump is Evil
Trump is a Racist
Trump is a Fascist
Trump is committing genocide against the ***** community

The DNC wouldn't lie to the American public. I can pull hours upon hours of video of numerous politicians, political commentators, journalist, etc informing us that Trump is an Evil Fascist Dictator. Literally hours of this stuff will live on forever on the intrawebz. Rachel Maddow, perhaps the most knowledgeable person in the political realm and who has an accuracy rating of 99.99%, has declared Trump is a Fascist Dictator,. Who I am I to disagree with such an astute person??? Trump himself said he'd be a Dictator on Day 1.

That said, my dad took an early retirement back when Clinton was doing what Trump is doing now. I don't recall big court cases, Unions stepping in and insisting that people that wanted to take a buyout could not or the liberals losing their minds over it. Nobody was in the streets calling for Al Gore to be arrested. It's interesting how times have changed.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

This is entirely too funny if true.
Except the part about the $20 million for Trump to go to a football game.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Totally normal and legal, right?
Just like offering money that Congress hasn't approved.

Why even have a government any more? All we need is Musk and Vice President Trump.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

This is entirely too funny if true.
Except the part about the $20 million for Trump to go to a football game.

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He left the game early. I think it was petty of the Eagles to snub the President. Why does every public figure feel the need to advertise their politics?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Totally normal and legal, right?
Just like offering money that Congress hasn't approved.

Why even have a government any more? All we need is Musk and Vice President Trump.

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Why have a POTUS if bureaucrats are going to ignore him and fund things he said not to fund?

That said, I find it interesting that FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) is paying to house illegal immigrants. If this indeed an emergency, it was inflicted upon the city of NY by Biden (or whoever was running the show at the WH) and the Mayor. No wonder people were flooding into the country. I'd love to get put up in a luxury hotel in NYC on somebody else's dime.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Trump is clearly being a Fascist Dictator. The DNC platform consisted of the following 4 main planks:

Trump is Evil
Trump is a Racist
Trump is a Fascist
Trump is committing genocide against the ***** community

The DNC wouldn't lie to the American public. I can pull hours upon hours of video of numerous politicians, political commentators, journalist, etc informing us that Trump is an Evil Fascist Dictator. Literally hours of this stuff will live on forever on the intrawebz. Rachel Maddow, perhaps the most knowledgeable person in the political realm and who has an accuracy rating of 99.99%, has declared Trump is a Fascist Dictator,. Who I am I to disagree with such an astute person??? Trump himself said he'd be a Dictator on Day 1.

OK. And Trump's platform was:
I have a concept of a plan.
I will lower your cost of living starting on day one.
I will impose import tariffs and tell you that foreign countries will pay them on your behalf.
I want to assume control of the Panama Canal, against Panama's wishes.
I will give Russia Ukraine.
I will stop drug addiction.
I don't know what Project 2025 is, but it's really horrible stuff.
I will eliminate birthright citizenship.
I will pardon a bunch of criminals who attempted a coup, because they like me.
I will bring back pollution levels we haven't seen for decades.

What a champ.

That said, my dad took an early retirement back when Clinton was doing what Trump is doing now. I don't recall big court cases, Unions stepping in and insisting that people that wanted to take a buyout could not or the liberals losing their minds over it. Nobody was in the streets calling for Al Gore to be arrested. It's interesting how times have changed.

You don't recall court cases? Could that possibly be because it was done legally?
Why yes, it COULD be. And it was:
"Congress paved the way for buyouts. In March 1994, Clinton signed HR 3345, the Federal Workforce Restructuring Act of 1994. The legislation passed by wide, bipartisan margins: 391-17 in the House and 99-1 in the Senate."
-Amy Sherman

Did you know the "offer" under Trump is called "Fork in the road" and includes wording to allow it to be rescind after a buyout is taken, with no right to appeal?
"this agreement cannot be rescinded, except in the sole discretion of the [AGENCY HEAD], which shall not be subject to review at the Merit Systems Protection Board or otherwise."
They also made them waive any right to "pursue through any judicial, administrative, or other process, any action against [AGENCY] that is based on, arising from, or related to Employee's employment at [AGENCY] or the deferred resignation offer"

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Why have a POTUS if bureaucrats are going to ignore him and fund things he said not to fund?

They were funded when he was not President and had no role in government at all.
The money was actually in the NY bank.

That said, I find it interesting that FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) is paying to house illegal immigrants. If this indeed an emergency, it was inflicted upon the city of NY by Biden (or whoever was running the show at the WH) and the Mayor. No wonder people were flooding into the country. I'd love to get put up in a luxury hotel in NYC on somebody else's dime.

The "luxury hotels" were charging $12.50 PER DAY for the emergency housing.
And we may have just spent $20 million for Trump to go to a football game. And he left early.
Will President Musk require Trump to foot his own bill for that, in the name of "efficient spending"?

The immigration crisis started under Trump, so I guess we should blame him for allowing it to start. Right?
Had he not allowed it to start, then it would not have been an issue under Biden.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

And the right-wing's biggest "concern" is a person born with a brain chemistry that doesn't match their genitals.
Might want to clean their own houses first, huh?

#RightWingSexualPredators

docs.google.com

Tip of the iceberg:

1. Donald Trump is accused of ****** assault by more than two dozen women. He is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl, talked about having *** with his daughter, bragged of walking in on underage girls at pageants, claimed he can grab women by the *****. He is convicted of sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
   https://www.gzeromedia.com/in-60-seconds/world/trump-******-abuse-verdict-wont-hurt-him-with-gop
   
   

   Trump testified E Jean Carroll was ‘nut job’ who said she enjoyed being sexually assaulted

   Lawyer for writer who accused him of **** asked if ex-president was admitting to it, unsealed testimony shows

   www.theguardian.com
2. Judge Roy Moore is accused of ****** assault and dating underage women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore_sexual_misconduct_allegation
3. Jim Jordan is in Republican House leadership though he is accused of ignoring ****** assault of more than a hundred young men while a coach, dismissing it as locker room talk. Students have said they told him and he is said to have called the parents of one complainant asking them to get their son to back off.
   https://www.vox.com/2018/7/6/17536388/jim-jordan-ohio-state-******-abuse-accuser
   
   

   How Jim Jordan, a Fighter Aligned With Trump, Fought His Way to Power (Published 2023)

   The Ohio Republican defines himself by his penchant for punching back, whether against allegations that he was derelict in a *** abuse scandal or attempts to prosecute the former president.

   www.nytimes.com
4. Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert sexually abused his high school students. He is outside the statute of limitations but was convicted of paying off/bribing some of his victims https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/dennis-hastert-sentencing.html
5. Cobb County GOP Chairman Joseph Russell Dendy - child molesting - pleaded guilty, life sentence, parole possible in 30 years. He was 72. https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/cobb-gop-chairman-dendy-indicted-molestation-charges/Ajxs2SiORqMCCdVZpGqj1M/
   
   

   Former Cobb GOP leader Joseph Dendy guilty of child molestation

   Former Cobb GOP chairman Joseph Dendy pleaded guilty and received a life sentence, with 30 years to be served in prison.

   www.ajc.com
6. So-called "pro-life"/ antigay activist Howard Scott Heldreth was convicted of raping a child https://web.archive.org/web/20230601212352/https://shadowproof.com/2008/07/27/nc-antigay-operation-save-america-totes-convicted-child-******-to-charlotte-pride/
7. GOP Ohio County Commissioner David Swartz convicted of raping two girls - released after only 5 years!!!! Back in prison after contacting one of his victims.
   http://lanternproject.org.uk/library/child-abuse-arrests-and-court-cases/child-abuse-arrests-trials-and-proceedings/ex-county-commissioner-admits-******-abuse-of-girl
8. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl
   

   Indecent Assault Case Judge Pleads No Contest Mark Pazuhanich Says He Didn’t Want His Daughter To Have To Testify About Fondling Incident.

   By DAVID WEISS dweiss@leader.net Tuesday, July 13, 2004 Page: 1A WILKES-BARRE – Slow with his words, a tearful Mark Pazuhanich carefully explained how his behavior at a teen pop concert tore apart his “great relationship” with his daughter. He wants that relationship back, he said, and...

   www.timesleader.com
9. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessingChild ****** Abuse Material on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...n-brief/83fbbb01-c7fc-437a-81c4-2f686e3f1e58/
10. Republican Speaker of the House in PR Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo …
11. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls. https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/nyregion/ex-mayor-convicted-in-***-abuse-case.html
12. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking **** photographs of a 15-year old girl. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-apr-06-me-47737-story.html
13. Republican racist ********* and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had *** with (*****) a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. https://web.archive.org/web/20190728115136/https://www.thenation.com/article/was-strom-******/

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

They were funded when he was not President and had no role in government at all.
The money was actually in the NY bank.


The "luxury hotels" were charging $12.50 PER DAY for the emergency housing.
And we may have just spent $20 million for Trump to go to a football game.
The immigration crisis started under Trump, so I guess we should blame him for allowing it to start. Right?
Had he not allowed it to start, then it would not have been an issue under Biden.

The immigration crisis started under Trump.

AP says City Comptroller Brad Lander reported $152/night.

Additionally, the money (according to Eric Adams) was received last week (~Feb 5th). So somebody decided to send money that Trump told not to send. Maybe they felt justified, but they probably should have cleared that with Trump first.

The office of Mayor Eric Adams said on Monday it received two payments from the federal government related to migrant assistance last week totaling over $80.5 million. One payment was for $58.6 million and the other was for $21.9 million, under two tranches of the Shelter and Services Program, city spokesperson Liz Garcia said. The money covered reimbursements for services delivered between November 2023 and October 2024 and included reimbursement for hotels, security, food and other costs. About $19 million in reimbursement claims were for hotel costs, she said.

FACT FOCUS: FEMA funding to New York City to assist migrants is misrepresented

FEMA payments to New York City for migrant assistance came under scrutiny this week as Elon Musk claimed his Department of Government Efficiency had uncovered $59 million in illegal payments to house migrants in luxury hotels when it was meant for American disaster relief.

apnews.com

 

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He left the game early. I think it was petty of the Eagles to snub the President. Why does every public figure feel the need to advertise their politics?

Guess rob was expecting trump have military parade of ICBM, 10,000 Sieg Heil saluting brown shirts

 

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