Current events discussion

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Hey, what do you guys think about Trumps comments on the Mexican cartels?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Hey, what do you guys think about Trumps comments on the Mexican cartels?

You mean going to war with the cartels?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You mean going to war with the cartels?

Yes

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Yes

That's always one of those things that I worry is going to start a Civil War. There's a lot of money tied up in the cartels, you know, probably a lot of dirty American money. There's so many people on our side making money off of that situation too, how crooked parts of our government are involved in profiting off human trafficking and drug trafficking. Not only that, but the cartels are everywhere inside of our country and so are threats like Islamic cells. I worry if we take the cartels on, even though I feel like we have to regardless, that we could see terror attacks from the cartels and possibly foreign actors working with the cartels to disrupt our nation just like Turkey and NATO funded those radicals to overtake Syria just now; somebody else will do that to us with the cartels.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That's always one of those things that I worry is going to start a Civil War. There's a lot of money tied up in the cartels, you know, probably a lot of dirty American money. There's so many people on our side making money off of that situation too, how crooked parts of our government are involved in profiting off human trafficking and drug trafficking. Not only that, but the cartels are everywhere inside of our country and so is threats like Islamic cells. I worry if we take the cartels on, even though I feel like we have to regardless, that we could see terror attacks from the cartels and possibly foreign actors working with the cartels to disrupt our nation just like Turkey and NATO funded those radicals to overtake Syria just now; somebody else will do that to us with the cartels.

It would certainly expose "sleeper" type cells.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Speaking of sleep. Later! Man I miss IRC's. Sure made chatting fun. Night.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You stupid idiot. Go back and ******* read. I posted all the information your ignorant *** needs.

My ******* words and he thinks I have to put quotations around them. Dumbass.

Yes you stupid idiot. You have to put quotation marks around words you are QUOTING, even if they are words you originally wrote.
Do you think an author leaves off the quotation marks if she is quoting a line from one of her OTHER published books?

Direct quotes use the exact words from a source and require quotation marks.

Holy ****, you dig yourself deeper into this hole of nonsense with every post you make in support of your stupidity.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes you stupid idiot. You have to put quotation marks around words you are QUOTING, even if they are words you originally wrote.
Do you think an author leaves off the quotation marks if she is quoting a line from one of her OTHER published books?

Direct quotes use the exact words from a source and require quotation marks.

Holy ****, you dig yourself deeper into this hole of nonsense with every post you make in support of your stupidity.

Rob, you can claim all the bullshit you want. You are wrong about quotes and verbatim quotes. I am not going to argue with you about the ******* quotation marks. I didn't want to use them. You know the words and where they came from so stop being a **** just to be a ****. They smell after all. Do you want to be a smelly ****? Goodnight. You can post your acknowledgment of your error if you like... though it is not needed for me. I already know your mistake.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Civil trial...far lower burden of proof...

**** is a felony Rob...show me the conviction...

Not only that, but we have the Judge in the civil trial saying Trump was found guilty of **** when clearly he wasn't. This is up there with USSC's decision to overturn Roe v Wade for activist shyt law. Along with Trump being held responsible for a bank doing a shyt job of ensuring accurate value of property they were lending on.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

She was only able to bring the suit because of an "oddly" timed revision of the statute of limitations for bringing a CIVIL case...

Not only was it timed just to let her bring this case, it was temporary so the revision will only ever apply to Trump. But the lefties just can't see it. Another travesty in law that comes to mind is the Clinton impeachment - can you imagine how many men would be in jail if they started charging everybody with perjury for lying about cheating on their wives in court? Where would we put all the Venezuelan gangsters Biden Co encouraged to come to America???

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The court decision says he's a ******. That can be determined in civil court, bud.
If you want to dispute that, you have to take it up with the court, otherwise the decision has not changed.

Let me know when you get the court decision changed or overturned.

liable - A party is liable when they are held legally responsible for something

But he was found guilty of ****** abuse.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You mean going to war with the cartels?

I support kicking some cartel bootie.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Sorry guys, looks like I have to reverse course here. I've been saying Trump was only found guilty of ****** abuse, but clearly he was found guilty of **** - see below. I added the bold underline to emphasis how hilarious it is. I "regret" my comments about the E Jean Carroll case and will be contributing to a charity of her choice.

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"ABC News and anchor George Stephanopoulos have reached a settlement in a defamation suit brought by President-elect Donald Trump, which requires the network to apologize, contribute $15 million to a “Presidential foundation and museum to be established by or for Plaintiff,” and pay Trump’s legal team $1 million.

Defendants also must say they “regret” the defamatory comments, which Stephanopoulos made on-air in March during a broadcast with South Carolina representative Nancy Mace, that spurred Trump’s lawsuit. During the broadcast, the news anchor asked Mace why she supported Trump, who he said was found liable in Manhattan for raping E. Jean Carroll.

“You’ve endorsed Donald Trump for president. Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for **** and for defaming the victim of that ****,” Stephanopoulos said to Mace, herself a victim of ****** assault, during the broadcast. “How do you square your endorsement of Donald Trump with [your] testimony?”

Although a federal jury found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll at a department store in 1996, it did not find Trump liable for ****. Stephanopoulos repeated his false claim multiple times on air."

ABC News to Apologize, Pay $16 Million in Defamation Suit Settlement with Donald Trump | National Review

Defendants also must say they ‘regret’ anchor George Stephanopoulos’s false on-air claim in March that Trump had been found liable for ****, which spurred Trump’s lawsuit.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I don't NEED to, dummy.
The COURT DECISION, written by the JUDGE, says Trump ***** her.

There is NO amount of spin, misdirection, obfuscation, personal opinion, beliefs, feelings, claims, or complaints of a world conspiracy to make Trump look bad, that you can post, that will change the following words quoted VERBATIM from the COURT decision:
"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was “*****” within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump “*****” her as many people commonly understand the word “****.” Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that."

PROVE THE QUOTE ABOVE FROM THE COURT DECISION IS NOT TRUE. ANYHTING ELSE YOU POST ABOUT IT IS JUST EYEWASH TO AID YOUR INABILITY TO ACCEPT FACTS,

Just because we have a politically motivated judge doesn't mean Trump was found guilty of ****. They just wanted to be able to call the Orange Bad Man a ******. IIRC, this was a jury trial, so only the jury can find Trump guilty or not guilty of anything.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

What you posted about his quote is misleading. You left out a word that significantly changed the meaning of the quote. You are misquoting what he said, because you are using his words to misrepresent the intention of the usage of those words. What you are doing violates any standard academic integrity.

So you dislike me enough that you will back up ThxOne when he lies and claims I "misquoted" him in my sig line?
OK, let's run with it.
1. Show me where I offered any explanation of what his words meant.
2. Show me where any of the words in quotation marks were not a verbatim, word-for-word, exact copy, of the words he originally typed in his post.

The words mean the same thing with or without the "Your". An average that is derived from a set of numbers is not "mine" in any way. It is a mathematical certainty. The calculation to find an average is also not "mine" in any way.
Additionally, he was describing an average reached by adding 2 and 3 together, and dividing by 2.
Neither 2 nor 3 are "mine", nor is the calculation.
"Your" matters not a whit with regards to the verbatim quote in my sig line.
Should we get into the fact that he felt the need to explain people don't get "half a child" when the average number of children in a home is not a whole number?

And was talking about averages and math in general. He clarified it here:
"That is YOUR spin on what I post. What I post is that math can ALSO be used nefariously."

Just because we have a politically motivated judge doesn't mean Trump was found guilty of ****. They just wanted to be able to call the Orange Bad Man a ******. IIRC, this was a jury trial, so only the jury can find Trump guilty or not guilty of anything.

Actually, it does. The decision exists regardless of the motivation of the judge, the jury, the failure of Trump's attorneys to hire ThxOne for his stellar defense capabilities, the day of week the decisions occurred, the phase of the moon, the color of the carpet in the judge's chamber.

Unless the decision is changed or overturned, the decision is locked in. Nobody's personal opinion changes that.
Just like ThxOne's personal opinion doesn't change the definitions of "in", or "irony", "tautology", or "verbatim".

I posted a link to the legal decision several times, with quotes taken directly from within the decision itself. The quotes from that decision indicate that Trump is legally considered a ****** by court decision.
I posted this after calling him a ******, and Spokey challenged my use of the word.

He wanted proof. I gave him proof. And then he spent a ton of posts trying to spin out of the reality of the legal decision. But he never showed that the decision was changed of overturned.
So it stands.