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[ThxOne Premium Member]

No, I am just quoting the actual words he said and the promises he made, and contrasting them with the new words he has said about the exact same subject.
Promise the world in order to get what you want, then break the promises before you even would have a chance to fulfill them.

Welcome to politics!!! The difference is Trump is actually going to do something. Even if it is HARD TO DO.

You said you would do it, and did it.
Why TF would you ask if you "walked back" your statement? YoU DID WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO.

Right, and Trump never said he wouldn't do it. You are assuming he wont because he said it is hard to do.

If you said "I will learn how to do it" and then every time someone offered, you said "I'd LIKE to" and then declined the offer, THAT would be walking it back.
If you promised you'd get 1,000 HP out of the engine he was building but when he asked you to do it you said "I'd LIKE to, but it's hard" because you weren't really sure you COULD, that's walking back on a promise.

Don't make a promise that you are unsure you can deliver on. Because anything other than delivering is "walking it back"

You can shut up now. You are trolling again.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Seriously, just stop talking. You predilection for bashing Trump is the only reason you are claiming he is walking anything back. That and because that is what your biased media has told you.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

When you don't experience what the average person does, you are an outlier

So everyone that sees higher prices still is just an outlier? Then there's enough outliers to render your chart obsolete

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

But the average represents what we ALL pay.

Average is a misnomer...only a small percentage see the "average" in any kind of poll, graph, whatever...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Average is a misnomer...only a small percentage see the "average" in any kind of poll, graph, whatever...

NO!!!!! You can't argue about an average with him either. He will claim you said nobody will ever pay the actual number the average is representative of.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You are misreading the first chart; it doesn't show a decline in prices it shows a decline in the rate of inflation.

As spokey said those charts don't reflect the reality people are facing. It's common knowledge that they fudge the inflation numbers and consistently understate inflation. The 2nd to last chart doesn't reflect reality at all. If I had to work an extra ~30 minutes per week to cover groceries from 2021-2023, I wouldn't have even noticed it nor would most Americans. I'm paying ~twice as much for groceries post Covid; that's roughly 25% per year post lock down.

Maybe I'm not grasping what you are getting at, but the first chart is the CPI, which is the PRICES of that "market basket" of goods. The very definition of CPI is "a measure of the average change over time in the prices paid by consumers for a representative basket of consumer goods and services"

If the CPI chart isn't about "change over time in the prices paid", then what does it represent?

And if the prices represented by the chart are fudged for Biden, then we must assume they are also fudged for Trump and every president before him. Any discussion or comparison of prices becomes moot, because nobody knows the real data, and has no basis of comparison.

Does the chart not reflect reality, or not reflect your personal reality?
Do you call bullshit on the average price of gas in the US being $3.03/gal if you are in California and paying $4.65?

Average is a misnomer...only a small percentage see the "average" in any kind of poll, graph, whatever...

But a large percentage are close to it, especially with a dataset as big as the US. That's how averages work and why they can use them to make predictions about data sets that include hundreds of millions of examples.
The average US salary in 2022 was $63,795. The median was $60,070.
How can that be, when Elon makes $350,000 per hour, but Ted makes $7.25/hour?
MATH.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Does the chart not reflect reality, or not reflect your personal reality?
Do you call bullshit on the average price of gas in the US being $3.03/gal if you are in California and paying $4.65?

Those charts mean nothing against what people see coming out of their wallets...and if people were satisfied with the economy then the election would've at least been close if not go the other way...

You show me whatever you want that says bacon is cheaper now but the cash register tells a different story...

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Trump Vows to Eliminate ‘Inconvenient’ Daylight Saving Time

President-elect Donald Trump said Republicans will seek to eliminate Daylight Saving Time, calling the semiannual time changes “inconvenient” and “costly.”

www.bloomberg.com

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I can cherry pick stats and create a graph showing Rob Deer was the greatest power hitter to ever play in the MLB without mentioning he struggled to stay above .200

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Trump Vows to Eliminate ‘Inconvenient’ Daylight Saving Time

President-elect Donald Trump said Republicans will seek to eliminate Daylight Saving Time, calling the semiannual time changes “inconvenient” and “costly.”

www.bloomberg.com

Dude, I ******* hate daylight savings time

Rob while he's not typing:



@Speed Chaser :



(Your future)

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Dude, I ******* hate daylight savings time

Rob while he's not typing:

Lol beat me to it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I can cherry pick stats and create a graph showing Rob Deer was the greatest power hitter to ever play in the MLB without mentioning he struggled to stay above .200

How long would you say they have been faking the CPI for?
Is the fakery a new phenomenon just for the benefit of Biden?
Or has it been going on for years, but they only do it for Democrat presidents?

Do they change the 23,000 retailers in 75 suburban areas they get the data from, picking the left-leaning ones for the numbers?

Whose buying habits does the CPI reflect? ▾

• The CPI measures the average price change over time for a market basket of goods and services for two target populations: All Urban Consumers (CPI-U population) and Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W population).
• Both the CPI-U and the Chained CPI (C-CPI-U) use the CPI-U population. The CPI-U population constitutes over 90 percent of the U.S. population and covers households in all areas of the United States, specifically, all urban households in core-based statistical areas (CBSAs) and in urban places of 10,000 inhabitants or more. Not covered are people living in rural nonmetropolitan areas, in farm households, on military installations, in religious communities, and in institutions such as prisons and mental hospitals.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

How long would you say they have been faking the CPI for?

Where did I say fake?

My theoretical Rob Deer chart would include nothing but facts...just leaving out some negatives...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So everyone that sees higher prices still is just an outlier? Then there's enough outliers to render your chart obsolete

Exactly. I don't know a single person that claims to at or below average on those charts.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Where did I say fake?

When you suggested cherry-picking stats to create a graph that didn't represent reality.
That would be "faking it" or creating "fake" information.

If you think the CPI data is cherry-picked to show better numbers for Biden, that would be "faking it" or providing "fake" information that doesn't represent reality.
fake - a thing that is not genuine; a forgery or sham