Current events discussion

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Come on man, stop the Google search for answers. I am genuinely curious what a mind like yours is hiding. Please, let us know the secrets to a flawless and prosperous economy. One that is the envy of the world. Are you keeping it secret for when you plan to run for the White House?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The tariff may have moved Honda manufacturing here, but it's not a US company.
That's only a partial win.

So creating good paying jobs and increasing the local, state, and federal tax income isn't a win?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I didn't think so. You are real good at telling others how wrong they are but when questioned on the right way or how you would do it you freeze like a deer in the headlights.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So creating good paying jobs and increasing the local, state, and federal tax income isn't a win?

I said it's a PARTIAL win. We're not keeping all of the money here, which is the goal. Right?

Wouldn't it be better to have a US company sourcing materials in the US, manufacturing goods in the US, selling to US citizens, AND exporting to other countries?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The question is: why did we lose so many if we could simply just have done it better?
Why didn't we just do it better?

People complain that we helped other countries recover and then made them good enough to beat us.
No, we helped them REBUILD, and then they made themselves better than us.

Japan had Sony. We had Zenith for 20% cheaper. Sony won. Better.
Korea had Daewoo. We had RCA for the same price. Daewoo won. Better.
Japan had Datsun. We had AMC.

Did you know the dashboard on your Ford was probably designed 5 years before it could be approved for the vehicle design and cannot be changed once production starts, but the Japanese can react and change a design in a month if they choose to?

If we CAN do it better, we sure haven't made a show of it.

If you read up on the process of rebuilding Japan and Germany, we did indeed make them better than us and provided them with a market for their products. And I don't mind it in that case because they're our allies. China is literally our enemy and they certainly aren't doing anything better, they're doing cheaper and shittier.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Would you rather pay $25,000 + $6,000 in tariff fees for a Honda built in Saitama, or $25,000 with no tariff for the same Honda built here?

The tariff may have moved Honda manufacturing here, but it's not a US company.
That's only a partial win.

None of these big corporations are US companies, they're all international companies. And arrangement we have with Honda now is certainly better than before tariffs. If it makes you feel better to call that partial win, then feel free to do so. For the guy with a job at the Honda plant, it's complete win.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So creating good paying jobs and increasing the local, state, and federal tax income isn't a win?

Somehow in the age of international corporations, it's a "partial" win. I guess Honda was supposed to shutter its operations in Japan and move to Texas.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I said it's a PARTIAL win. We're not keeping all of the money here, which is the goal. Right?

Wouldn't it be better to have a US company sourcing materials in the US, manufacturing goods in the US, selling to US citizens, AND exporting to other countries?

What fantasy world do you live in. We may not access to the raw materials or may not want to access them for numerous reasons. In a world of tariffs, other countries are going us tariffs to limit US exports - ie, China.

 

[Old_Slapper]

I said it's a PARTIAL win. We're not keeping all of the money here, which is the goal. Right?

Wouldn't it be better to have a US company sourcing materials in the US, manufacturing goods in the US, selling to US citizens, AND exporting to other countries?

Trump started bringing manufacturing back to the US, right after Obama claimed it was gone for good. So know you are saying Trump is doing a good thing? Thank you for agreeing with us.

 

[Old_Slapper]

A theory is more than rational thought about what might have happened. Keep in mind that gaps in fossil evidence have been filled in just as the theory predicts.

Could there be other species and civilizations - absolutely. OTOH, what if Einstein is right and the speed of light is the absolute limit? Even assuming you could 10x the speed of light, it would be incredibly difficult for alien civilizations to find each other.

Yes, a "theory" is just an educated guess. It is based on possible evidence, but it leans heavily toward being a hypothetical conclusion.

Another example, they have no idea where the big dinosaurs came from. Fossils show there were smaller life forms for millions of years, then all of a sudden, these monstrous fossils started showing up. There are no fossils leading to the growth of the huge life. It's actually quite fascinating.

Here is the definition of the word theory.

Definition of THEORY

a scientifically acceptable or plausible general principle or body of principles based on data and offered to explain phenomena; a hypothetical structure explaining or relating to an observed set of facts… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I don't believe it's safe to travel faster at the speed of light. Imagine if your craft hit a small pebble. That pebble would blow right through the shuttle, so imagine if you hit a large asteroid. Also, the closest possible habitable planet is about 4.3 lightyears away. At 10x the speed of light, it would still take a couple months to get there. However, that would still be way too dangerous to travel at those speeds. To travel to other planets, we would have to find some way to us some type of a wormhole. In other words, we would have to find some way bend space-time continuum.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I get what you are saying. When you actually start diving into the evolution, scientists state there are huge gaps. They don't have actual specimens and/or evidence of all the different stages of evolution. They all state it is just a theory, and the definition of a theory is basically a rational thought, which means it is just something they believe to be true.

However, I totally agree that we have different opinions, and I respect that.

Now, for my real thoughts...
Earth is not the only planet with intelligent life. Man has only been on earth for approximately 200,000 years. Technology wise, we have only had it for about 100 years and look how far we have come. My thoughts are, there are other much older planets out there. If so, there can be civilizations that are at least twice as old as we are. Imagine the technology they would have. They would have the ability to travel to multiple galaxies, create life, and develop planets. So, who is God? He could be a leader of a civilization who created us. They have found numerous drawings of a man ascending to earth in some type of vessel. Some writings state he arrived in a chariot of fire.

Just mathematically, when you look at just number of galaxies and numbers of stars, even if someone believes cellular life only comes from single cells slowly evolving into more complex organisms, life would have to be probable to happened else where in the universe, too.

Just with multiply stars times galaxies:

LOL at people who think there's no other life in the universe. And that's just what's dimensionally visible to us, not mention what structures and life are beyond the speed of light. That's not even including planets, just stars and galaxies. Multiply number of galaxies times average stars per galaxy and it's an absurd number of potential life points.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

A theory is more than rational thought about what might have happened. Keep in mind that gaps in fossil evidence have been filled in just as the theory predicts.

Could there be other species and civilizations - absolutely. OTOH, what if Einstein is right and the speed of light is the absolute limit? Even assuming you could 10x the speed of light, it would be incredibly difficult for alien civilizations to find each other.

Just like we emit body heat, we emit energy waves related to our consciousness and thought process. Some of that energy we emit from being can be sensed beyond our reality, basically, and it's a trait of intelligence across the entire universe, from what I understand. We're like little walking radio towers, our spines.

Also, exploding around 2,000 nukes on our planet makes a lot of noise around the universe. Nukes are not quiet, lol, everybody knows where you are, like sending a sonar ping out into the ocean of outer space.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Wouldn't it be better to have a US company sourcing materials in the US, manufacturing goods in the US, selling to US citizens, AND exporting to other countries?

That would be awesome...how do you figure reconcile that idea with dems pushing for $20-50hr minimum wage?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Pretty easy watch and really good