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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Your charts conspicuously leave off 25% of his presidency. Why is that?

Why don't you try to educate us about that 25% Rob?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

All three points you mentioned are covered by the single fact that there were less jobs in the country when he left office than when he took office.
A first since the Great Depression.
Now I’ve addressed your points THREE TIMES.

As for real income (a type of math you previously abhorred, but now love since you think it proves you right): You’re still wrong. His numbers were not as good as the administration before him.
“Real wages (adjusted for inflation) grew throughout Trump's first three years in office - continuing a steady upward trend which began during the first of President Obama's two terms.
This growth reached 2.1% per annum in February 2019, prior to the pandemic.
This is lower than the real wage increases of up to 2.4% that President Obama oversaw in 2015”

Funny how you think math is political.

You are the one making math political. Also, you are arguing actual facts, not me dumbass.

Educate us as to why there may have been less of ANYTHING when Trump left office.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Is it coincidence that this far left liberal who calls himself RobGMN ignores all the trends that were the good that Trump was doing and continuing from the previous administration so he can focus on the end of the Trump administration and use that time to cover the whole of Trumps presidency. Gonna ignore COVID huh? Eat a diick Rob.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Why don't you try to educate us about that 25% Rob?

Since you apparently don’t know, the economy went into the shitter for his final year as POTUS.
The economy entered recession (hint: recession is a bad thing).

When he left office, less people were employed in the country than when he took office. The stock market tanked. Unemployment skyrocketed. The use of social welfare skyrocketed. Household incomes tanked.

You know, looking at the whole picture instead of just what looks good.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Since you apparently don’t know, the economy went into the shitter for his final year as POTUS.
The economy entered recession (hint: recession is a bad thing).

When he left office, less people were employed in the country than when he took office. The stock market tanked. Unemployment skyrocketed. The use of social welfare skyrocketed. Household incomes tanked.

You know, looking at the whole picture instead of just what looks good.

You stupid shithead... what happened at the end of his presidency? Gonna focus on the results and not the cause Rob? Idiot.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Is it coincidence that this far left liberal who calls himself RobGMN ignores all the trends that were the good that Trump was doing and continuing from the previous administration so he can focus on the end of the Trump administration and use that time to cover the whole of Trumps presidency. Gonna ignore COVID huh? Eat a diick Rob.

Hmmmm, funny you point that out while conveniently ignoring that Biden inherited an economy in the shitter, and inflation is pretty much a guarantee to bring the economy out of the shitter.

So, are you ever going to address the things I asked you to explain?
You complained that I never answered questions that you never asked, but I directly ask you to explain facts about things that happened during the Trump
Administration, and all you give is crickets.
The same response Republicans give when you ask why they keep thinking trickle down theory will work “this time”.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Hmmmm, funny you point that out while conveniently ignoring that Biden inherited an economy in the shitter, and inflation is pretty much a guarantee to bring the economy out of the shitter.

So, are you ever going to address the things I asked you to explain?
You complained that I never answered questions that you never asked, but I directly ask you to explain facts about things that happened during the Trump
Administration, and all you give is crickets.
The same response Republicans give when you ask why they keep thinking trickle down theory will work “this time”.

Trump was doing just fine and so were all of us until COVID. You blind hateful idiot.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Trump was doing just fine and so were all of us until COVID. You blind hateful idiot.

So COVID is the excuse for the recession under Trump, but post-recession inflation under Biden is Biden’s fault.
Nothing to do with pulling out of the aforementioned recession that happened under Trump.
Got it.

I’ll bet you think Trump is innocent of the charges brought against him, and it’s just Democrats being mean.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So COVID is the excuse for the recession under Trump, but post-recession inflation under Biden is Biden’s fault.
Nothing to do with pulling out of the aforementioned recession that happened under Trump.
Got it.

I’ll bet you think Trump is innocent of the charges brought against him, and it’s just Democrats being mean.

Are you ignorant or something? What do you think happens when a pandemic hits? Do you think people were still working as if nothing was happening? Do you think people were spending as if nothing were happening? Do you think nobody was locked down? Do you know how much the democrats and the left were fighting Trump the whole time?

COVID is not an "excuse" it is one of the REASONS things went south. You should know the difference. I suspect you don't as you keep making excuses for Biden. Calling the inflation "post-recession inflation" to focus blame elsewhere. If it were to bring us out of a recession then why continue the inflation and let it get so out of hand? Has it not been going on long enough? America would say it has been enough and polls prove this.

Here Rob, explain why Bidenflation is so good in your eyes when his economy's effect is worse than what COVID did. Look at baby food an formula when COVID hit in 2019 now look what Biden is doing.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Are you ignorant or something? What do you think happens when a pandemic hits? Do you think people were still working as if nothing was happening? Do you think people were spending as if nothing were happening? Do you think nobody was locked down? Do you know how much the democrats and the left were fighting Trump the whole time?

So what you’re saying is that Trump had no control over the situation, and that he had to let the free economy do what the free economy does.
Got it.

COVID is not an "excuse" it is one of the REASONS things went south. You should know the difference. I suspect you don't as you keep making excuses for Biden. Calling the inflation "post-recession inflation" to focus blame elsewhere. If it were to bring us out of a recession then why continue the inflation and let it get so out of hand? Has it not been going on long enough? America would say it has been enough and polls prove this.

So, COVID is an uncontrollable reason that the economy tanked into recession, but post-recession inflation is something that the Democrats not only can control, but that the Democrats somehow “continued” or are continuing.
What exactly would the benefit of continuing the inflation be, if it hurts the country and no one wants it?

Here Rob, explain why Bidenflation is so good in your eyes when his economy's effect is worse than what COVID did. Look at baby food an formula when COVID hit in 2019 now look what Biden is doing.

I’m not thrilled with “Bidenflation”, any more than I was thrilled with “Trumpcession”, but inflation and recession are intrinsically linked when it comes to the economy. Massive downturns are met with massive reversal, and vice-versa. It’s how the economy works.

Since this is roughly the eighth recession we’ve had in your lifetime, these facts should not be a surprise. Were you not paying attention during the last one?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So what you’re saying is that Trump had no control over the situation, and that he had to let the free economy do what the free economy does.
Got it.

Really? Those are all question marks. Here is another question... Did ANYONE have control over COVID?

So, COVID is an uncontrollable reason that the economy tanked into recession, but post-recession inflation is something that the Democrats not only can control, but that the Democrats somehow “continued” or are continuing.
What exactly would the benefit of continuing the inflation be, if it hurts the country and no one wants it?

If there was only someway... someone who could stop making bad policies... I wonder who is in charge right now?

I’m not thrilled with “Bidenflation”, any more than I was thrilled with “Trumpcession”, but inflation and recession are intrinsically linked when it comes to the economy. Massive downturns are met with massive reversal, and vice-versa. It’s how the economy works.

With no time limit apparently unless we are forced to wait until an election.

Since this is roughly the eighth recession we’ve had in your lifetime, these facts should not be a surprise. Were you not paying attention during the last one?

Oh no, I get it. Republicans get prices where it is comfortable for Americans and Democrats jack them up so they can make money off the people. Yeah, I know how it works.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Really? Those are all question marks. Here is another question... Did ANYONE have control over COVID?

You’re sidestepping. If you were not being rhetorical and genuinely have no idea, you shouldn’t be arguing about this stuff.

If there was only someway... someone who could stop making bad policies... I wonder who is in charge right now?

You think the current policies caused the inflation? OK, tell us what those policies are, and tell us what policies could be implemented to curb inflation.

With no time limit apparently unless we are forced to wait until an election

See above.

Oh no, I get it. Republicans get prices where it is comfortable for Americans and Democrats jack them up so they can make money off the people. Yeah, I know how it works.

You think recession that drives prices down is a good thing? What happened to your previous complaint about businesses being locked down, closed, etc. due to the recession?
Do you think recession is simply prices going down?
Afraid not, kid.
In a large economy, price drops across the board are caused by something other than good luck or the benevolence of the retail market. And it’s not good.
But if you want to blame Biden for inflation, why aren’t you blaming Trump for the recession.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You’re sidestepping. If you were not being rhetorical and genuinely have no idea, you shouldn’t be arguing about this stuff.

Really? Sidestepping? Is that what you are are throwing out there? I asked questions, you went on a rant but somehow I am sidestepping.

You think the current policies caused the inflation? OK, tell us what those policies are, and tell us what policies could be implemented to curb inflation.

Well genius, Biden is President. You going to blame Trump for Biden's presidency?

See above.

You think recession that drives prices down is a good thing? What happened to your previous complaint about businesses being locked down, closed, etc. due to the recession?

Not one time did I say businesses were locked down, closed, etc. due to recession you shitty, liberal, spin doctor. Back to your normal goal Rob? Lie, make false claims again?

Do you think recession is simply prices going down?
Afraid not, kid.
In a large economy, price drops across the board are caused by something other than good luck or the benevolence of the retail market. And it’s not good.
But if you want to blame Biden for inflation, why aren’t you blaming Trump for the recession.

Seriously, you are trying to educate us????? You can't even comprehend what I said let alone grasp the economy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Really? Sidestepping? Is that what you are are throwing out there? I asked questions, you went on a rant but somehow I am sidestepping.

Yes, sidestepping. As you have done before, you post a rhetorical question. When you get proved wrong you then play the "I was asking questions" card. The drawback is that if you were really "asking questions" and didn't know the answer, then you shouldn't be arguing the topic in the first place.
So which is it: Were the questions rhetorical, or genuine?

Well genius, Biden is President. You going to blame Trump for Biden's presidency?

We could certainly credit Trump for Biden's presidency. The country decided Trump didn't cut the mustard, and voted him out. The country may decide in the next election that Biden isn't cutting the mustard and vote HIM out. If so, then we can blame Biden for whoever we get as out next POTUS. It's happened plenty in history.

Not one time did I say businesses were locked down, closed, etc. due to recession you shitty, liberal, spin doctor. Back to your normal goal Rob? Lie, make false claims again?

Excellent job illustrating you have no idea how the various aspects of the economy are all intertwined. It sure seems like you are equation recession with lockdowns in your response to me:

Do you think there is a connection between lockdowns, recession, job loss, business closings, or not?
Pick a lane.

Seriously, you are trying to educate us????? You can't even comprehend what I said let alone grasp the economy.

I comprehend just fine, except you talk out of both sides of your mouth and constantly contradict yourself.
So let's start with the basics. I am looking for an actual response to these questions:
Do you think the government controls the economy, or that we are a free market economy?
What policies do you think Biden should implement to stop inflation?
What do you think Biden could have done to stop or curb the worldwide inflation that began late in Trump's presidency?
Do you think Biden is encouraging inflation? If so, for what benefit?
Do you think supply and demand are what drive prices in the market, or are they controlled by a special group of politicians who (as a group) decide what we will pay for the goods we buy on a daily basis?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes, sidestepping. As you have done before, you post a rhetorical question. When you get proved wrong and play the "I was asking questions" card. The drawback is that if you were really "asking questions" and didn't know the answer, then you shouldn't be arguing the topic in the first place.
So which is it: Were the questions rhetorical, or genuine?

You practice this alot don't you? A person ask you a question, you have no answers, you try to spin your way out.

We could certainly credit Trump for Biden's presidency. The country decided Trump didn't cut the mustard, and voted him out. The country may decide in the next election that Biden isn't cutting the mustard and vote HIM out. If so, then we can blame Biden for whoever we get as out next POTUS. It's happened plenty in history.

You have a relaxed brain and it's obvious.

Excellent job illustrating you have no idea how the various aspects of the economy are all intertwined. It sure seems like you are equation recession with lockdowns in your response to me:
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Do you think there is a connection between lockdowns, recession, job loss, business closings, or not?
Pick a lane.

Not that you will comprehend but here it goes. You blame TRUMP for a recession and how bad the economy was at the end of his presidency. Literally, you blamed TRUMP. You make NO mention of the reason, that being COVID. You'd rather just blame Trump because that is what you have been told to do. Lockdowns due to COVID, Job loss due to COVID, businesses closing due to COVID. Tell me how Trump did that.

I comprehend just fine, except you talk out of both sides of your mouth and constantly contradict yourself.

No, you are always looking for an argument so you make damn sure you have one no matter what.

So let's start with the basics. I am looking for an actual response to these questions:
Do you think the government controls the economy, or that we are a free market economy?
What policies do you think Biden should implement to stop inflation?
What do you think Biden could have done to stop or curb the worldwide inflation that began late in Trump's presidency?
Do you think Biden is encouraging inflation? If so, for what benefit?
Do you think supply and demand are what drive prices in the market, or are they controlled by a special group of politicians who (as a group) decide what we will pay for the goods we buy on a daily basis?

I am not interested in changing topics with you. I am not interested in one way conversation with you. I am not interested in listening to you say everyone is wrong except you.