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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

In the beginning, the choice was there. But with people dropping like flies

At no point was the death rate anywhere near your statement...hyperbole at its finest...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

“At around 35 minutes into the interview, Carlson and Kennedy begin discussing the US bioweapons program. Meanwhile back home, RFK Jr. said thatthere are "36,000 'death scientists' who are now employed full time in developing microbes that can be used to kill people."”

"Death Scientists?": Tucker And RFK Jr. Talk Ukraine, Biolabs, And Who Killed His Uncle | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

If you look at it that way, there is always a choice. A job you may have had for 15+ years but you’re a federal employee, federal contractor or in the medical field, you can choose your job or the vaccine. That is absolutely correct! We have to apply that logic across the board though to be fair. When illegal immigrants come here, we should say they had a choice to come here or not come here. Don’t give them anything, if they die fluck em . The next time a Republican governor buses or flies them to a democrat city, those people were presented with a choice to go. No one should complain about it anymore. Everytime someone gets killed by a cop and there is video evidence showing they resisted arrest, that person made a choice too. All those homeless people in california, that is a choice as well, their fault fluck em. Everything is a choice, even success is a choice. A pandemic though, is that really a choice . My opinion of course

Yes. I say ship them back so they can come here legally. Open borders doesn't mean all laws are disregarded.
No, that whole movign them to another city and dumpling them was bullshit. What if a "democrat city" rounded up all their criminals and just transported them to a "republican city"? Each city should deal with its own problems.

Should resisting arrest be met with force to cause death? I guess if the act of resisting put the cop at risk of death.
Shooting a guy who is threatening someone with a deadly weapon? Yes. Kneeling on a guy's neck until he dies while his hands are already cuffed behind his back? Not so much. Pulling a drunk guy out of a car after a chase and taking him down hard as he fights to get away? Yes. Shooting a guy who is trying to flee after being lawfully pulled over? Yes.

Some people here would say the pandemic was a choice. They would say the Dems chose to make it and release it in order to make Trump look bad.
But was it a choice for the general public to have to deal with it? Nope. Neither is AIDS. Neither is Lyme's. Neither is Ebola. But how we deal with it is a choice. Yes, things changed for a lot of people who were at work for many years. But that happens all the time, not just form a vaccine. A local bank just got sold to a larger bank. A relative got this offer: Take a 15% pay cut.
That was the offer. A regional hospital is being sold to a larger one. The workers will all get new contracts. Likely not as good as the old ones. Choices will be made. I'm sure choices were made when the gov't mandated immunizations for workers way back when.

Life used to be adapt or die. We've all but eliminated Darwinism, and now seem to want it so that people just settle in and are taken care of with no worries about any change for life. Not realistic, if you ask me.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So close.

There is no such thing as a partial quote verbatim. It's just a partial quote.

Sorry kid, you are wholly incorrect on that one.
Verbatim means "word-for-word" not "every single word that is in the original text/document/speech/etc".

Seriously, go ask and English professor. Ask Jimi, since it seems he can outwrite anyone on this forum.
"no such thing as a partial quote" -Thxone

Quotations

A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work.

apastyle.apa.org

That is a partial quote that is word-for-word from your original statement. It means I have not altered the words that I have quoted in any way.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Not for all was it a choice. When you needed to be vaxed or lose your job that isn’t giving people much of a choice, especially those who are atheist .

I know atheist or "not religious" people who took the religion exemption. I didn't support the mandates, but it seems like there was only a small segment that were really affected by them.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

If you look at it that way, there is always a choice. A job you may have had for 15+ years but you’re a federal employee, federal contractor or in the medical field, you can choose your job or the vaccine. That is absolutely correct! We have to apply that logic across the board though to be fair. When illegal immigrants come here, we should say they had a choice to come here or not come here. Don’t give them anything, if they die fluck em . The next time a Republican governor buses or flies them to a democrat city, those people were presented with a choice to go. No one should complain about it anymore. Everytime someone gets killed by a cop and there is video evidence showing they resisted arrest, that person made a choice too. All those homeless people in california, that is a choice as well, their fault fluck em. Everything is a choice, even success is a choice. A pandemic though, is that really a choice . My opinion of course

I know hospital workers who got exemptions.

 

[djdilliodon!]

Yes. I say ship them back so they can come here legally. Open borders doesn't mean all laws are disregarded.
No, that whole movign them to another city and dumpling them was bullshit. What if a "democrat city" rounded up all their criminals and just transported them to a "republican city"? Each city should deal with its own problems.

Should resisting arrest be met with force to cause death? I guess if the act of resisting put the cop at risk of death.
Shooting a guy who is threatening someone with a deadly weapon? Yes. Kneeling on a guy's neck until he dies while his hands are already cuffed behind his back? Not so much. Pulling a drunk guy out of a car after a chase and taking him down hard as he fights to get away? Yes. Shooting a guy who is trying to flee after being lawfully pulled over? Yes.

Some people here would say the pandemic was a choice. They would say the Dems chose to make it and release it in order to make Trump look bad.
But was it a choice for the general public to have to deal with it? Nope. Neither is AIDS. Neither is Lyme's. Neither is Ebola. But how we deal with it is a choice. Yes, things changed for a lot of people who were at work for many years. But that happens all the time, not just form a vaccine. A local bank just got sold to a larger bank. A relative got this offer: Take a 15% pay cut.
That was the offer. A regional hospital is being sold to a larger one. The workers will all get new contracts. Likely not as good as the old ones. Choices will be made. I'm sure choices were made when the gov't mandated immunizations for workers way back when.

Life used to be adapt or die. We've all but eliminated Darwinism, and now seem to want it so that people just settle in and are taken care of with no worries about any change for life. Not realistic, if you ask me.

I do agree, everything should be a choice. I’d totally be fine with that, it’s just we have some extremely entitled people in our society who cry their lack of success is always someone else’s fault. We should be an adapt or die like it use to be, we would get rid of all the useless people that way . The issue with the sending of immigrants to dem cities was cause the dems are telling republicans they have no compassion and that they are mean and if it was them they would take care of them. So Republicans sent them. Mayor adams here in NYC has officially and finally said no more. NYC spent $12 billion so far and just can’t sustain it anymore and are waking up!

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Maybe Covid wasn't "designed" to infect ACE2 receptors.

Scientists unravel a major mystery behind the Covid-19 pandemic

It could help predict the virus in the future.

metro.co.uk

 

[djdilliodon!]

I know hospital workers who got exemptions.

A few cops I know got denied, they eventually won in court. All the others I read about in the local paper at the time also won in court. In the end they prevailed. I was hoping I’d be able to go on leave but I guess my religious exemption was just written so good even though I was full of shit

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I do agree, everything should be a choice. I’d totally be fine with that, it’s just we have some extremely entitled people in our society who cry their lack of success is always someone else’s fault. We should be an adapt or die like it use to be, we would get rid of all the useless people that way . The issue with the sending of immigrants to dem cities was cause the dems are telling republicans they have no compassion and that they are mean and if it was them they would take care of them. So Republicans sent them. Mayor adams here in NYC has officially and finally said no more. NYC spent $12 billion so far and just can’t sustain it anymore and are waking up!

So when the Republicans complain about "welfare", the Democrats should just limit the amount of money that flows form Democrat states to Republican states. That would be an equitable action.

On the list of givers vs takers, Republican states occupy 3 of the top 4 spots of takers with regard to taxes paid vs. Fed. funds received
Democrat states occupy 3 of the top 4 spots of givers.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

A few cops I know got denied, they eventually won in court. All the others I read about in the local paper at the time also won in court. In the end they prevailed. I was hoping I’d be able to go on leave but I guess my religious exemption was just written so good even though I was full of shit

I can't imagine any organization thinking they could deny a religious exemption.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So when the Republicans complain about "welfare", the Democrats should just limit the amount of money that flows form Democrat states to Republican states. That would be an equitable action.

On the list of givers vs takers, Republican states occupy 3 of the top 4 spots of takers with regard to taxes paid vs. Fed. funds received
Democrat states occupy 3 of the top 4 spots of givers.

You could go even further and limit the flow of cash from big cities to rural areas. Lets not forget utilities like cable, cellular, electric, etc are usually subsidized by big blue cities too.

 

[djdilliodon!]

So when the Republicans complain about "welfare", the Democrats should just limit the amount of money that flows form Democrat states to Republican states. That would be an equitable action.

On the list of givers vs takers, Republican states occupy 3 of the top 4 spots of takers with regard to taxes paid vs. Fed. funds received
Democrat states occupy 3 of the top 4 spots of givers.

I think that would be fair . Just cause they are Republican states doesn’t mean I fully support them being free loaders but the top states that spend the most on welfare:

1. New York

2. Alaska

3. Massachusetts

4. California

5. Rhode island

List of states with highest amount of welfare recipients:
1. California – 1,911,000
2. Florida – 1,632,000
3. Texas – 1,595,000
4. New York – 1,520,000
5. Pennsylvania – 946,000
6. Illinois – 904,000
7. Georgia – 699,000
8, Ohio – 698,000
9. Michigan – 672,000
10. North Carolina – 634,000

The only way dems could pull that one off is by allowing states that want to succeed from the Union and no longer pay into federal tax. Those states can then form their own thing. I truly believe imo if the political climate continues on the way it is, we may see this happen

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I think that would be fair . Just cause they are Republican states doesn’t mean I fully support them being free loaders but the top states that spend the most on welfare:

1. New York

2. Alaska

3. Massachusetts

4. California

5. Rhode island

List of states with highest amount of welfare recipients:
1. California – 1,911,000
2. Florida – 1,632,000
3. Texas – 1,595,000
4. New York – 1,520,000
5. Pennsylvania – 946,000
6. Illinois – 904,000
7. Georgia – 699,000
8, Ohio – 698,000
9. Michigan – 672,000
10. North Carolina – 634,000

The only way dems could pull that one off is by allowing states that want to succeed from the Union and no longer pay into federal tax. Those states can then form their own thing. I truly believe imo if the political climate continues on the way it is, we may see this happen

That's dollar figures of what the states are paying out of their coffers, not what the states get back above and beyond what they give to the Feds in taxes.
For example, Illinois (a dem state) gets less than $1 (about $.70) from the Feds for every $1 they contribute to the Federal coffers.
Texas on the other hand, gets back about $1.50 for every $1 they contribute to the coffers.

This flies in the face of the tradition Republican complaints about "welfare".
Basically, no Republican state should be a "taker" if the traditional battle cry of Republicans is "no welfare!".

Yes this is a simplification, of what a party is about, but it's also a truth.

 

[djdilliodon!]

That's dollar figures of what the states are paying out of their coffers, not what the states get back above and beyond what they give to the Feds in taxes.
For example, Illinois (a dem state) gets less than $1 (about $.70) from the Feds for every $1 they contribute to the Federal coffers.
Texas on the other hand, gets back about $1.50 for every $1 they contribute to the coffers.

This flies in the face of the tradition Republican complaints about "welfare".
Basically, no Republican state should be a "taker" if the traditional battle cry of Republicans is "no welfare!".

Yes this is a simplification, of what a party is about, but it's also a truth.

A state like West Virginia, your logic is 10000% accurate. A state like texas though, you really think the majority on welfare aren’t in the big cities which the democrats run? Welfare should be for people who fall on hard times, it should never be a way of life. That is the problem with welfare.