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First, do you know the difference between a "conversation" and a "debate"? I ask because what you are constantly doing is trying to combine BOTH. I am not even close to wanting to debate every damn time I see YOU have responded to something. If I wanted to debate every damn post I would go to a forum where that was the soul purpose of the forum. What you don't seem to get is not every post is about getting into a debate.

Second, I like facts just fine. I like feelings just fine as well. If I want to say Pelosi facilitated the events of Jan 6th I sure as hell can go right ahead and say it. What YOU need to understand is that you cannot refute what I am saying with "facts" because YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. You weren't there so anything you want to use to argue with is second hand news. At best you can give me your opinion on the events and surprise, surprise... we would be in a conversation.

I think right off the bat you are biased. You call it "infotainment". How is that ANY different than Trump calling them "Fake News". To me it seems like BOTH titles accomplish the same thing. It's not truthful for them to say their is NO fraud. Everyone has agreed there is some fraud. Even one act is still fraud.

I 100% want to have conversations but it is my opinion that what you do is not conversation. What you do is debate. Like I said, I am not here for debates, to be talked down too, to be told what to think, what I said or what I meant. Which again, you do. When I call you names it is because you have done these things.

Counter offer and challenge. Learn what a conversation is as apposed to a debate and you are more than welcome to have a conversation with me. If your goal is a debate, make that known and if I choose to debate you, I will. Like an adult. But if I lose, I will be a child about it.
So do you want to have a “conversation” where you do not get challenged, everything you say is accepted as accurate because you call it “feelings” or “opinion”, and an absence of proof is considered proof?

I’m afraid that’s not really conversation. It’s just people posting shit at random, with no reference to what another person has said.
Politics in conversation begets debate. It’s a foregone conclusion. So does religion. So does money. So does parenting. Etc.

If you want to converse without debate, politics is really not the subject to converse about. Honestly.

I am biased because I call 24/7 news stations “infotainment”? It’s a FACT that they are. There is not enough news to fill 24 hours a day. They “report” on non-news, which makes them entertainmen. Thus, “infotainment “. The word is not commentary, it’s just fact.
HOWEVER, it IS bias when you describe “mainstream media” as biased, but speak specifically to certain networks as being guilty, but purposefully leave out others that do the same or worse.
How many times has CNN been vilified for lying and bias by right-wingers, while they ignore that Fox has been shown to be worse? And the Dane people QUOTE the lies from Fox. Go figure.

So I’ll ask a non-rhetorical question: Do you want adult conversation where topics that spur debate result in debate, or do you want to just post random thoughts without getting responses that you may not like?
 
So do you want to have a “conversation” where you do not get challenged, everything you say is accepted as accurate because you call it “feelings” or “opinion”, and an absence of proof is considered proof?

I’m afraid that’s not really conversation. It’s just people posting shit at random, with no reference to what another person has said.
Politics in conversation begets debate. It’s a foregone conclusion. So does religion. So does money. So does parenting. Etc.

If you want to converse without debate, politics is really not the subject to converse about. Honestly.

I am biased because I call 24/7 news stations “infotainment”? It’s a FACT that they are. There is not enough news to fill 24 hours a day. They “report” on non-news, which makes them entertainmen. Thus, “infotainment “. The word is not commentary, it’s just fact.
HOWEVER, it IS bias when you describe “mainstream media” as biased, but speak specifically to certain networks as being guilty, but purposefully leave out others that do the same or worse.
How many times has CNN been vilified for lying and bias by right-wingers, while they ignore that Fox has been shown to be worse? And the Dane people QUOTE the lies from Fox. Go figure.

So I’ll ask a non-rhetorical question: Do you want adult conversation where topics that spur debate result in debate, or do you want to just post random thoughts without getting responses that you may not like?
I thought my post was pretty darn clear. I guess it wasn't clear enough. Thanks for letting me know what your intentions are when you post. I don't see many conversations between you and I then.
 
I thought my post was pretty darn clear. I guess it wasn't clear enough. Thanks for letting me know what your intentions are when you post. I don't see many conversations between you and I then.
To be sure I understand:
You want a "conversation" to be a situation where you post something (such as a feeling about politics, law, economics) and then others respond by telling you you are correct in your feelings, or telling you the feelings are great, or something similar.
You want a "conversation" to exclude any debate, discussion, argument, discourse, dispute, or any information that is contrary to what you have posted.

Is that what you are looking for here? Non-rhetorical question. If the answer is "no", please feel free to tell me what you expect a "conversation" to be.

The conversation would (or would not) be between you and me.
 
To be sure I understand:
You want a "conversation" to be a situation where you post something (such as a feeling about politics, law, economics) and then others respond by telling you you are correct in your feelings, or telling you the feelings are great, or something similar.
You want a "conversation" to exclude any debate, discussion, argument, discourse, dispute, or any information that is contrary to what you have posted.

Is that what you are looking for here? Non-rhetorical question. If the answer is "no", please feel free to tell me what you expect a "conversation" to be.

The conversation would (or would not) be between you and me.
Since you missed it. This IS the definition of a "conversation" - a talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged.
 
Debate - "a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward".
That's very good. Except you left out the verb: "Argue about (a subject), in a formal manner".

I wasn't suggesting we hold a (noun)debate, I was using the term as a verb. As in "to debate" a topic.
A "formal manner" would be taking the theory and dissecting it using facts and evidence. Premises, assumptions, conclusions, arguments, and all that jazz. Not "formal" as in we stand at a podium and discuss in front of an audience.

Have you ever been in a social situation where people are talking an there are opposing thoughts being discussed? Do you consider it no longer a conversation if that happens?

Harken back to middle school or high school when you had to learn this stuff:
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Debate IS a type of conversation.
 
That's very good. Except you left out the verb: "Argue about (a subject), in a formal manner".

I wasn't suggesting we hold a (noun)debate, I was using the term as a verb. As in "to debate" a topic.
A "formal manner" would be taking the theory and dissecting it using facts and evidence. Premises, assumptions, conclusions, arguments, and all that jazz. Not "formal" as in we stand at a podium and discuss in front of an audience.

Have you ever been in a social situation where people are talking an there are opposing thoughts being discussed? Do you consider it no longer a conversation if that happens?
You just can't help it.

I'm not interested. My ego is fine. No need to try to lift myself up by winning a pointless debate on a web forum. It accomplishes nothing except the wasting of time. You say I am tenacious... look how much effort you are putting into trying to convince me to debate with you.

A good conversation would be one in which you tell us why you feel the need to debate/argue so much. Being this is a Biden/Harris winners thread... was it political motivation that started this obsession of yours?
 
You just can't help it.

I'm not interested. My ego is fine. No need to try to lift myself up by winning a pointless debate on a web forum. It accomplishes nothing except the wasting of time. You say I am tenacious... look how much effort you are putting into trying to convince me to debate with you.

A good conversation would be one in which you tell us why you feel the need to debate/argue so much. Being this is a Biden/Harris winners thread... was it political motivation that started this obsession of yours?
Can you stick to the topic? You very clearly tried to tell me I am wrong about how I have conversations.

Why do you feel the need to create rules like that? Why do you feel the need to try and state the rules as based in fact, and even support that argument with inaccurate or incomplete info?

Do you not find it odd that you do EXACTLY what you complain others are doing

If you’re not trying to be right (I.e. “win”), what is your purpose for posting info that you think supports your claims?

Some of this is rhetorical, and some is legitimate curiosity, hoping for continued conversation in the form of answers and ongoing discussion.
 
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