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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Right. A theory is something that you offer proof and reading for, not just something that appears in your mind at random.

Isn’t there something that made you come up with the theory? A rumor you read or heard? An actual occurrence? Word from an insider friend?

Without all the fluff you will undoubtedly try to add, all a theory is are ideas. Plain and simple.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Still waiting for you to explain how you know so much more about logistics than Amazon and Freightliner.
What is YOUR real-world experience in EV transport?
Experience that supersedes Amazon’s 100,000 vehicle end-user fleet, and Freightliner’s manufacturing, testing, and 800 truck sales deal would be preferable.

Quit leg riding companies...and talk real world...if you ain't got no experience...then there's no point talking theory with you

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The ability to BUY EV delivery vehicles does not an expert make. Freightliner makes a product to sell to the experts of Over the road transport.

Amazon isn't investing in Rivian and EV delivery vehicles on accident. Amazon runs an amazingly tight ship.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Without all the fluff you will undoubtedly try to add, all a theory is are ideas. Plain and simple.

The definition of “theory” would take exception to that, but I’m sure you’d say (and believe) the definition is wrong.
You know, humans that edit dictionaries are “fallible” and all that…

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Amazon isn't investing in Rivian and EV delivery vehicles on accident. Amazon runs an amazingly tight ship.

It's possible a self contained company could do it...but Industry wide is a distant possibility...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The definition of “theory” would take exception to that, but I’m sure you’d say (and believe) the definition is wrong.
You know, humans that edit dictionaries are “fallible” and all that…

Definition of theory



1 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena the wave theory of light



2a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn

b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all



3a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation

b : an unproved assumption : conjecture

c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject theory of equations



4 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art music theory



5 : abstract thought : speculation



6 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

🖐 I have a theory. Because master Yoda, the government has offered them monies to do so. Most likely a quid pro quo arrangement.

I'm kinda doubting Amazon is investing in unfeasible technologies for a tax credit.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Quit leg riding companies...and talk real world...if you ain't got no experience...then there's no point talking theory with you

All that electronic gum flapping, and you haven’t shared YOUR real-world experience with EV transport.

Tell us Spokey: What is your experience with OTR EV and with shorter distance EV delivery methods?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I'm kinda doubting Amazon is investing in unfeasible technologies for a tax credit.

Why not? They are in the business of making money. Saving money is just as important.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm kinda doubting Amazon is investing in unfeasible technologies for a tax credit.

I was just hoping he’d actually have a “why” argument to present instead of the usual “because I said so” that he offers.

Sadly, he went with pure speculation that has no cause or reason.
Possibly just wanted to blame the government in some way and try using a phrase he doesn’t understand.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I was just hoping he’d actually have a “why” argument to present instead of the usual “because I said so” that he offers.

Sadly, he went with pure speculation that has no cause or reason.
Possibly just wanted to blame the government in some way and try using a phrase he doesn’t understand.

I've stated it before...lack of infrastructure...lack of places for drivers to shut down...hell a lack of owner/operators willing to shell out for a new truck...freight hauling isn't one all encompassing company...it's thousands of small contractors, shipping agents, paid drivers, owner/operators all getting things moved...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

It's possible a self contained company could do it...but Industry wide is a distant possibility...

Good thing it won't be industry wide until the distant future.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Why not? They are in the business of making money. Saving money is just as important.

You're not saving money if the technology isn't feasible. You're wasting time and money.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Here's a good example...a driver gets 10hrs a day...plans his trip and it'll take him 9 1/2 - 9 3/4 hrs to a planned shutdown...now if traffic is bad or for any other reason he can't keep speed...now he can't make the planned shutdown stop...now that driver has to still get as many miles possible in while finding just a place to shutdown (Walmart parking lots and other stores get used frequently)...now if that driver needs to shutdown and recharge but runs out of hours to get there...then he's recharging on drive time...That's a huge loss of money all the way around...the average driver can carry 2 days of diesel...so if he misses the first planned shutdown...he can plan another for the next day...or he can fill the tanks in most likely less then 10 minutes...way less money lose...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You're not saving money if the technology isn't feasible. You're wasting time and money.

They.